wtmtnhiker
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Sunday I was on the interstate in heavy traffic around Buffalo,NY. Suddenly people were pulling up along side me and pointing. I had no idea what they wanted until I looked back and saw the smoke and sparks. The tire blew and wound around the rim stopping the wheel from turning. I was dragging the wheel and making heat and sparks. It happened very fast and I ruined the wheel. The funny thing is, the truck was so stable and powerful I didn't know anything was going on in back. I always thought that if I got a blowout on the trailer it would be very difficult to handle or control.
I might invest in some tire pressure monitors for the trailer. I managed to get it changed but now had to risk driving the rest of the way to New Hampshire without a spare. The 5ver is a 2011 Cameo. It came with Chinese Duro tires. I didn't realize that the wheel was also Chinese until I got the flat.
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Duro tires are some of the worst out there. I have personal experience with them. If you are going to continue to use ST tires you should look at Maxxis tires. You may be able to switch to LT with a Cameo 5th wheel
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SoCalDesertRider
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I would change all the other tires first. Worry about tire pressure monitor later. First course of action is stop the likelyhood of tire failure problem from re-occurring, which is to get rid of the cheap-o tires completely. The tire pressure monitor just lets you know the problem has already happened. Kind of like an alarm to tell you the horse has ran out of the barn. Alarm or no alarm, the horse is still gone.
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Chris
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The big question is why are we allowing ourselves to leave the dealers lot on cheap inferior chinese ST tires? Education is the key! DO NOT TAKE DELIVERY of a new $40-60K trailer on cheap chinese tires. That means on axles above 6k and up to around 6750 lbs you should have Goodyear G614's. 7K and up you should have 17.5 rims and LRH LT tires. On 6K axles demand Michelin XPS RIBs or Bridgestone Duravis R250. Stop the problem at the source. This is shameful!
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Welcome to the world of 5er blowouts,
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SoCalDesertRider wrote:I would change all the other tires first. Worry about tire pressure monitor later. First course of action is stop the likelyhood of tire failure problem from re-occurring, which is to get rid of the cheap-o tires completely. The tire pressure monitor just lets you know the problem has already happened. Kind of like an alarm to tell you the horse has ran out of the barn. Alarm or no alarm, the horse is still gone.
That may be true on an instant blowout, but usually the tire will lose air pressure or start to heat up long before that happens.
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Mile High
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powderman426 wrote:SoCalDesertRider wrote:I would change all the other tires first. Worry about tire pressure monitor later. First course of action is stop the likelyhood of tire failure problem from re-occurring, which is to get rid of the cheap-o tires completely. The tire pressure monitor just lets you know the problem has already happened. Kind of like an alarm to tell you the horse has ran out of the barn. Alarm or no alarm, the horse is still gone.
That may be true on an instant blowout, but usually the tire will lose air pressure or start to heat up long before that happens. I don't think there is any data to back up these blowouts are "usually" preceded by low pressure. I firmly believe these continuous blowouts are just instant and are a direct result of catastrophic tire failure. Some are even tread loss which doesn't show up on the TPM.
I'm all for TPM to help prevent tire wear and maybe to even spot the road hazard flat before it fully deflates, but I think the magic ends there.
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When getting new tires or whatever you do, have the wheels checked for very slow seepage. Alumimiun wheels from South America and China have a history seepage. Carriage went thru this several years ago with some wheel junk. A friend had a Carriage, went to Alaska, and went thru I forget how many tires. Just as he was within several miles of the US border, he was in a "cattle shoot" and another popper. Pulled into a tire shop while still in B.C. and was talking to the shop guy. He told him "your tires are probably OK, but lets check your wheels as we have seen seepage problems". Sure enough, all wheels bled air at the welds. When he got back to the US side, he contacted Carriage, and they immediately sent replacement Alcoa alumimium wheels. Fixed the problem. Just have them checked.
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Mile High wrote:powderman426 wrote:SoCalDesertRider wrote:I would change all the other tires first. Worry about tire pressure monitor later. First course of action is stop the likelyhood of tire failure problem from re-occurring, which is to get rid of the cheap-o tires completely. The tire pressure monitor just lets you know the problem has already happened. Kind of like an alarm to tell you the horse has ran out of the barn. Alarm or no alarm, the horse is still gone.
That may be true on an instant blowout, but usually the tire will lose air pressure or start to heat up long before that happens. I don't think there is any data to back up these blowouts are "usually" preceded by low pressure. I firmly believe these continuous blowouts are just instant and are a direct result of catastrophic tire failure. Some are even tread loss which doesn't show up on the TPM.
I'm all for TPM to help prevent tire wear and maybe to even spot the road hazard flat before it fully deflates, but I think the magic ends there.
Mile High, I agree with you that these continuous blowouts are mostly just instant catastrophic tire failures. All the tire experts and want to be experts want to list other causes, which would apply to higher quality tires. However we are talking about tires from the bottom of the food chain of tires, that have over inflated ratings that are beyond common sense.
The whole Special Trailer tire concept is so out of date to modern Trailer size/weight, Tow Vehicles and Interstate Highway Systems speeds. Companies like Duro and Kenda have roots in bicyle tires. Importers of these products are looking for bargin priced products to provide low bid tire and wheel combinations as low bidders to trailer manufacturers. The trailer manufacturers do not have big enough kahuna's to step up to the plate and help resolve this issue, feeling that cutting corners in this area puts the trailer into the consumers hands and out of their hands before the problems start. "Delivery and Show Only!"
Axles are picked and trailers manufacturered based on these inferior tires inflated ratings.
If this kind lack of performance was occuring on a car or pickup it would be on the evening news across the nation each night for a month.
Then people will say I towed xx,000 miles without a problem, and I say you were one of the lucky ones! To the new owner on the side of the highway with a trailer ripped up your luck does not mean much to them.
Once is tire is mounted on a rim and installed on a trailer, you can not see what is happening within the tire until major failure is in process. That period maybe a few seconds and 100 feet down the road or few hours and a 100-150 miles. If you are lucky and see a separation starting before complete failure, count your blessings!
High quality tires are not cheap! There is not cheap way out of this low bid hole! This is even more true after the first time you leave the dealers lot.
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wtmtnhiker
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No matter what else I do I'm getting rid of the Chinese tires. I'm disappointed with Carriage. I feel like I paid for premium and got junk on more than just the tires and wheels but that's another story.
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