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pryan

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Posted: 09/08/10 07:29pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hi folks,

I know that there are threads on this topic and I've looked at them. I'm really just looking for the answer a simpleton like me needs. This past weekend our battery died after a couple of days. No hookups! I think a solar charger might be the answer. I have a TT with the normal "stuff.". I don't know about amps or loads or any of that stuff. What solar charger should I get?
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Posted: 09/08/10 07:34pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

if you are looking at no hook ups - the biggest you can afford..

Solar chargers a rather low output - thus they maintain a charge rather then pull a load..

A 26 watt solar charger is around $300 and will only light 1/2 of a double bulb 12v light fixture.

A double bulb light fixture has (2) 18 watt bulbs - and pulls 36 watts

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Hi Jimehc,

Solar panels now cost less that $2.00 per watt if you shop around.

Hi pryan,

For solar to work well the range of wattage is best between 60 and 150 watts of panels per 100 amp-hours of storage. Less than 60 watts may not be able to equalize the battery bank (but even 15 watts per 100 will, given enough time, fully charge the bank). There are reasons to use more than 150 watts--but after the battery bank is 85% charged there is not much point in attempting to charge faster than the c/8 rate.

Charging a battery bank is somewhat like a frog on a log who can jump 1/2 to the end of the log in any jump. Every jump takes about the same time but the amp-hours returned to the battery become smaller and smaller. That's why solar, with a good charge controller, is one of the better ways to recharge batteries. It is not uncommon for me to see my solar panels "putting in" just one amp to 875 amp-hours of storage.


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Posted: 09/08/10 10:02pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you generally camp under trees then solar probably isn't for you, maybe a generator would be a better investment. Solar needs lots of sun to work.

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pianotuna wrote:

For solar to work well the range of wattage is best between 60 and 150 watts of panels per 100 amp-hours of storage. There are reasons to use more than 150 watts--

Charging a battery bank is somewhat like a frog on a log who can jump 1/2 to the end of the log in any jump. Every jump takes about the same time but the amp-hours returned to the battery become smaller and smaller.

That's why solar, with a good charge controller, is one of the better ways to recharge batteries. It is not uncommon for me to see my solar panels "putting in" just one amp to 875 amp-hours of storage.


150 watts per 100 amp hour of storage - with 875 storage

150 x 8.75 = 1312.5 watts of panel needed

1312.5 x $2 per watt = $2625

That is, if my math and your statements are correct and then we need to purchase a charge controller too??

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Hi Jimehc,

Ah but my two battery banks are switched, so I can still equalize with fewer watts--and I went for 60 watts per 100. So I have 256 watts X 2 = $512.00 plus an MPPT charge controller (less than 100 on ebay) plus various other items (call it 100 more) so $712.00 would "do the deed".

This is not helpful to the OP. I suggest having a look at panel prices here:

low cost high quality panels

Further, Jimehc, have a look at this 180 watt panel for $320.40 180 watts not 26 watts

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Posted: 09/09/10 06:54am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wow! A lot of great information! Thanks!

pianotuna

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Hi pryan,

If you wish to read about how my system has evolved surf here:

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and click on “Solar Boondocking”.

pryan wrote:

Wow! A lot of great information! Thanks!


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Posted: 09/09/10 05:48am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Your link, 180 watt panel for $320.00, is incorrect. It points to your own post.


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Hi Angus,

Thanks! I've made the correction.

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