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tbax46

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Posted: 09/01/10 08:15am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This can go on forever, but I can only tell you my experiences with a Ford V-10 for the last six years. It tows very well and the mpg isn't that bad for a towing truck.
I have gone up mountain passes at 11,000 ft. and still it performs. It also has been very reliable and it loves to rev in the high rpm range. You can find more information on this engine at the Ford Truck Enthusiats forum. Those guys love the engine and they seem to know it inside and out.


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Posted: 09/01/10 08:22am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

CliffordG wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

The Ford 6.8L is THE BEST gas towing engine available. It delivers 457 ft lbs of torque at 3250 RPM's (best in class), HP is an afterthought. It is the only gas engine that gets any respect from the diesel crowd. MPG around town in mine is 12. You want 05 or later for the most capability


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The Chevy 8.1 produces 340HP at @ 4200 RPM with *455* ft-lbs torque at @ 3200 RPM. The FORD may be "best in class" but it's only by 2 foot lbs, which I promise you is not noticeable.

No gas engine really gets respect from the diesel crowd but if that's your criteria I can tell you that the 8.1L doesn't get bashed by many. It's a beast of a motor and completely as capable as the Ford V10.

Pair it with the six speed Allison in the '06 to '08 model trucks and you have a serious machine. Even the '05, like mine, with the 5 speed Allison will make you happy.


Both are now a mute point since neither is available in a 2011, the 8.1 being discontinued a few years ago and 2010 being the last year for the V-10 in a traditional PU configuration. Since the 8.1 is already out of production(not sure how many years) it is not available and really doesn't fit into my statement at all. The original claim was that the GM 6.0 was as good as the 6.8 for pulling but it is not even close. The advantage of the 6.8L is how quickly it makes it's torque compared to smaller displacement gas engines. I was not disrespecting the 8.1, it just hasn't been available for some time.


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Posted: 09/01/10 08:42am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The OP asked about a V-10 and the GM 6.0. So why hyjack the mans thread with other powerplants.

Most GM and Ford towing specs I've seen the V10 has more torque across the board.

If the trailer is small just choose what truck you like. If the trailer is bigger go with the V10 and its bigger torque numbers.

Lots of V10's in MHs. How many 6.0 GM smallblocks powerplants are in a MH.


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Posted: 09/01/10 09:00am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ruth & Edward wrote:


If I were towing a whole lot more miles than I do, or in the mountains more than I've been, a diesel might be a better choice. But my truck sits un-used in my garage most of the time - sometimes for two to three weeks with no use whatsoever. I bought it new in January 2007, and total miles to date are just 17,900. Averaging just 5000 miles per year. For my limited usage, it is more than adequate.


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Towing, the V10 will probably do better (2005 or newer). Mpg wise, the GM 6.0L might do better. However, from the comparison tests I have read, they are pretty close. The GM 6.0L gasser was paired with a 6 speed auto starting in 2007 or 2008. That improves it's performance towing and mpg wise too.

I'd make the decision on which one to buy based on the individual truck you find in the used market.


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Posted: 09/01/10 09:07am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JIMNLIN wrote:

The OP asked about a V-10 and the GM 6.0. So why hyjack the mans thread with other powerplants.


It's called, offering alternatives that the OP may not have considered, or been aware of.

He's looking for a truck for OCCASIONAL use. That rules out new, and probably rules out anything less than 4-5 years old.

If he's considering a Ford 6.8L V10, he should also consider the GM 8.1L because it's offered in the trucks he's looking at.

Comparing the 6.8L to the GM 6.0L is apples and oranges.

The 8.1L will get similar fuel economy to the 6.8L, and produces a similar power spectrum.

There are a lot more 6.8L V10s out there than 8.1Ls... Unless you're fiercely brand loyal, you're more likely to end up with a Ford especially if you need the truck NOW.


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Posted: 09/01/10 09:12am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JIMNLIN wrote:

The OP asked about a V-10 and the GM 6.0. So why hyjack the mans thread with other powerplants.


He may be purchasing used, he didn't specify. If he is purchasing used the 8.1L power plant was an option through the '07 model year which means it's out there and available to him. The 8.1L also comes with the Allison transmission which is something you cannot ignore when you're towing heavy trailers.

I was also responding to someone's "THE BEST" statement that conveniently had no qualifiers. I went and looked at the '07 model year "tow off" that someone posted and I'm left wondering how it would have looked if they'd use the 8.1L instead of the 6.0. As it was the 6.0 actually DID beat the V10 in some categories. I see you are conveniently ignoring this.

Also the 6.8 V10 went away as of 2010 so if he IS buying brand spanking new then the V10 6.8 isn't an option!

For 2011 model year trucks you're left choosing between the new Ford 6.2 (411 HP and 434 Torque) and the Chevy 6.0 (360 HP and 380 Torque).

So if he's buying new the V10 isn't an option, if he's buying used the 8.1L / Allison combination IS an option!

How do you like them apples?

JIMNLIN wrote:

Most GM and Ford towing specs I've seen the V10 has more torque across the board.


6.8 to 6.0 this is true, 6.8 to 8.1 it's not.

JIMNLIN wrote:

Lots of V10's in MHs. How many 6.0 GM smallblocks powerplants are in a MH.


You don't like that I brought up the 8.1L, which Ford guys never do, but you bring up motor homes? Would those be the same motorhomes that still can come equipped with the Chevy 8.1L?


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Cecilt wrote:

Can anyone comment on the ford v-10 vs. Chevy/GMC 6.0L gasser? Will the Ford get crummy gas mileage compared to the Chevy/GMC? Does it have much more towing ability? Looking at used so what are good years to look at.

The 6.0L in my '04 Chevy 2500HD does very well. I pull a 7,000#, 34' TT and typically get between 9 and 10MPG. The engine needs to be north of 3500 RPM to really feel the torque curve kick in, but it performs okay below that.

Depending on your budget, I'd suggest looking for a 2007.5 or newer GM. I think that re-work was dubbed GMT900 and would come with the new 6L90E 6-speed transmission. If you can find one of those with 4.10 gears you will have a very capable towing machine. GM really changed up the gear ratios in the 6-speed and made the 1st couple gears much deeper. The old 4L80E in my truck does okay but 1st gear is pretty tall. The 6-speed will feel like it has a lot more oomph from a dead stop.

I have no experience with the Triton V10, but everything I've read about these has been very positive. From comments others have made, it seems like you'll probably get equivalent fuel mileage with either one and relatively similar towing experiences if you find a GM with the 6-speed transmission. If it were me I'd shop around until I found either truck with the lowest miles, the options I want, for the lowest price.

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Posted: 09/01/10 11:23am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JIMNLIN wrote:

The OP asked about a V-10 and the GM 6.0. So why hyjack the mans thread with other powerplants.

Most GM and Ford towing specs I've seen the V10 has more torque across the board.

If the trailer is small just choose what truck you like. If the trailer is bigger go with the V10 and its bigger torque numbers.

Lots of V10's in MHs. How many 6.0 GM smallblocks powerplants are in a MH.


I'd say to look for more 6.0 GM engines to start showing up in motor homes. Recently, we toured the Navistar Workhorse plant in Union City, IN where they make specialty medium truck chassis for motor homes, UPS trucks and other medium duty truck applications. A number of the chassis being built had 6.0 GM engines installed and the folks at the plant told us that more folks are starting to prefer the 6.0 over the diesel engine because of initial cost and also since recent emission standards have narrowed the fuel consumption gap.


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Posted: 09/01/10 11:59am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I guess it was inevtiable that this would become a tinkling match

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