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csg11 wrote: ..... Wonder how comfortable it is? Does seem to fit my need for space saving. http://tiny.cc/a718z
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Gary
I've got two Express Loungers. They're well built & compact but heavy-ish (all steel), and very easy to set up & take down. Not uncomfortable, fine for eating or conversation, but maybe too upright & tippy for 'lounging'. No shoulder or neck support for a six-footer, lower seat too shallow F-to-R for real 'slouching'. Not a 'sleep-in chair'. Armrests are narrow, just a layer of fabric over the round tubing. Best features are compact folded size and set-up ease. I got mine in-store at Bass Pro Shops at Concord, NC, for $40 each.
One of my winter projects will be looking see if I can take a grinder to one to make the back angle just a bit less upright.
Jim, "Mo' coffee!"
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PlantCityGuy,
I've a friend who does not cook in her Pleasureway Class B. Rather, as soon as she stops she puts out her manual awning & sets up a kitchen under it. This tactic amounts to a fast, easy, huge expansion of her living space.
I've advocated her buying an electric awning so all she'd have to do is press a button to break/make camp but she's too much a troglodyte to do that. As is, it works well for her; in about 4 minutes she can furl the awning & drive away on an errand. It is a good scheme. If she'd get an electric awning she could cut her temporary make/break time in half.
But you get my drift; expand your space when you stop. Find compact stuff to carry & maybe carry some on of in on the outside of your camper like folding tables, chairs etc.
Dave
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ennajean

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Hope someone posts if they have that chair....would also love to know how comfortable it is. Looks very space saving.
Anne and Dick
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The chair is comfortable and portable. We use a folding stool to prop our feet on to kick back. Also bought a small portable umbrella to take with.
Jim & Darlene
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csg11 wrote: Jim & Darlene, Ewok our Llasa 2004 Roadtrek C190 Popular wrote: We also found folding chairs that are VERY compact and fit nicely in the back storage compartment.
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/x-press-lounger/42641
Here is that same chair shown in a video on Cabelas web site. Did not get the price, but, it is available elsewhere on line for $39.00. Wonder how comfortable it is? Does seem to fit my need for space saving. http://tiny.cc/a718z
Gary
We bought those chairs last year from Bass Pro Shop online and received them in two days. They are are comfortable for a variety of sitting situations except maybe for lounging. I usually put my feet on the picnic table seat for lounging but that is not the most comfortable for lounging. I would not recommend them if you weigh a lot - say over 230 lbs.
We store them in the bottom of our closet as two stack about 4.5" high and don't interfere with hanging clothes. They can fit just about anywhere.
Davydd
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Davydd is the Welsh spelling for David with an English twist using a v instead of an f.
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csg11 wrote: Jim & Darlene, Ewok our Llasa 2004 Roadtrek C190 Popular wrote: We also found folding chairs that are VERY compact and fit nicely in the back storage compartment.
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/x-press-lounger/42641
Here is that same chair shown in a video on Cabelas web site. Did not get the price, but, it is available elsewhere on line for $39.00. Wonder how comfortable it is? Does seem to fit my need for space saving. http://tiny.cc/a718z
Like the OP, we are still looking for a small coffee pot (4 cup) with a front load instead of a top load with lid that lifts up.
Gary
We have those chairs and they are quite comfortable. No problem for us. We can actually get two of them plus a patio mat in the storage under the 3rd seat on our 07 190P.
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plantcityguy

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Quote: We also found folding chairs that are VERY compact and fit nicely in the back storage compartment.
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/x-press-lounger/42641
csg11 and yizit: This looks like a great chair. Think I will get one. Thanks for the information. - Larry
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Hi Larry, bare with me for the long response I will tell you what Heidi and have done to make our life in our 170 doable. We do in fact full time in "Taj" and have made many modifications to it in the name of comfort and functionality.
First, our 170 has the optional "Armoire" where the 3rd seat would be. in that cabinet, we use the bottom two drawers to hold quite a lot of food. Above that, on the shelves, my wife has very well organized with stacked bins which hold much of our clothes. The top shelf is currently being used for cleaning supplies while the second shelf holds our first aid stuff and other miscellany. I intend on making some adjustments to this area though, I want to mount an under-counter coffee pot into either the top or second shelf(wherever it fits better). That should work well enough since the water can be filled from the front. Click here for a link to a picture of the bins used to store the clothes as well as some of the pots and pans in the under stove cabinet. There is also more food stored in that cabinet on the second shelf.
On the counter-top, we keep a convection/toaster oven which rides fine without being secured, though I will probably eventually add a safety attachment point for it. Inside the oven and also inside the microwave, while traveling, we keep the pans for the oven as well as some addition pantry items wrapped in cloth to prevent any rattles.
We keep a small bin in the sink where the teapot stays while driving as well as the paper towels. Our cutting board is modified to nest on top of the burner rack of the stove as additional counter space when not cooking. Surprisingly, it all looks fairly organized and tidy.
More food and tea in the cabinets above the sink.
We keep our bed always made up across the back and both my metal detector and guitar ride on it while driving, otherwise, they sit in the drivers seat. All of our blankets are layered on the bed for storage and more padding which works rather well. The TV cabinet that was above the bed was removed before I bought the rig so I made a cover over the back wall with a magazine rack in the middle. A flat-screen TV/DVD is mounted on an arm on the dividing wall between the galley and bed so the TV can be viewed from ether the front seats or the bed.
The passenger seat is turned toward the back anytime we aren't driving and the dirty clothes bag is kept on the passenger floorboard then. You have to stay up on Laundry in a B for sure, but it is really easily done when you learn a few tricks. I know Heidi plans to write a blog post about that fairly soon so I will leave it at that.
In the regular closet, we have all our hanging clothes on cascading hanger systems and keep our shiatsu massage chair in the bottom. Books, movies and a file folder in the overhead drawer above the cockpit. wireless router for 3g is in the small cabinet above the visors which also has room for a few other small electronics & chargers.
I mounted a table socket in the floor between the front seats and have a post that has both a vice head for doing my jewelry work and a table for times I need one. All of that is stored behind the drivers seat.
The storage under the bed is taken up largely by the 2500 watt inverter, 2 large AGM batteries, Gold panning gear, a canner, a dutch oven a few tool cases and a small box with various parts for future van mods 
The cabinets above the bed are on one side used by me for my fly fishing gear, jewelry making equipment, electronic tools and a few miscellany fun things of mine(laser slingshot, netbook etc). Heidi has hers full of her crafts, printer/coppier, netbook, and tons of other stuff I really don't keep track of.
Finally, 2 mountain bikes on the back from a spare tire mounted carrier, folding chairs, tools, chains and more prospecting gear in the drivers side outdoor compartment.
In the very near future, I am modifying the side entry door to hold our garbage can recessed half way in. I am going to modify the other side door with slanted shelves to hold shoes at that time as well.
I know, that was all probably way more info than you asked for, but I figure it will possibly help someone so I wanted to put it all out there.(Still left quite a few little things out though)There are a lot of little tricks to learn involving nesting and clever storage that B owners quickly figure out. Most also come up with the "something in, something out" method. Learning to evaluate and plan purchases based on how multi-purpose something is also is helpful.
Heidi and I are very comfortable in Taj and really(believe it or not) wouldn't want a larger one, not even a 190. We just feel very this one suits us perfectly.
Hope that novel helped 
*Thanks Reppans for posting a link to our blog*
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Escargot

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I own a 2005 RoadTrek 190P. Maybe it's just me, but I am constantly changing things around to meet the space limitations. I am not sure I have ever gotten it right.
Let's start with the sink and sink-top area. What do you carry on this cabinet top? The only thing I keep there is a wooden paper towel holder, and towels, and it's attached to the counter top with Velcro. I tried carrying a small coffee maker on the counter, but it didn't work out very well because of the small amount of space over the machine, which prevents you from filling it with water.
So . . . how about you?
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I've removed the TV, Bathroom door, and built-in coffee maker. I use the Melitta system (cone and filter). The long short cabinets over the sink and stove hold, filters, coffee cone, teas, a couple of mugs, mocha, sugars, and some canned goods. The pantry to the right holds dry goods, dishes, pots and pans, foils, et al. I use the bottom cabinet for dish rack and basin,, toaster, blender, plastic baggies... items I use only on occassion.
The warddrobe had two large (relatively speaking) stackable plastic drawers for seasonal clothing that stays in the RV, and a space above for a plastic basket thing that I use to store bathroom items when using the shower (never).
One over-the-bed cabinet holds sweaters and jackets, the adjacent one holds sweats/pajamas, a spring-loaded curtain rod with curtain for those times when I want to nap without doing the entire curtain wrap thing. The small top cabinet above the back door holds sketch pads and an assortment of pencils, and watercolors.
The back door under storage area holds two folding chairs, a small box of tools, cleaning/waxing supplies, another box holds do-dads... duct tape, assorted velcro and fasteners, assortment of batteries, washers, screws, clamps.
I havent opened the under the bed drawers in such a long time I can't even recall what all is in there. I believe there are several MREs in one of those drawers.
The now empty TV cabinet holds small canvas boards, brushes, paint tubes, and some empty containers that I use while painting.
The now empty built in coffee maker space holds several books.
I have a small modified table that fits over the inward turned passenger seat, that's the surface I use to support my canvasses when I paint.
I go out every weekend from two to three days and do not like to pack / unpack except for food and an extra item or two of clothing, depending on where I'm heading.
I haven't used, nor do I need half of the stuff I carry. I go through it regularly and cull out the useless stuff in order to down size.
Sorry this message is so long...
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mockturtle

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Hey, you people who live in your Bs are amazing and a real inspiration! Thank you for sharing your tips. Even those of us with Cs can use them.
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