We finally dialed it in and have decided on the floor plan for the new toyhauler. Diana and I wanted the smallest front bedroom setup available in a TT so we could keep the Can Am inside and have a place to sleep while in transit. Downside is a 10 -12 week build time
We opted for the 4000 Watt Onan generator.
Length of trailer body 23'
Inside Interior 8'
Kitchen area width 6'
Cargo length to first cabinet 11' 6"
Height under rear bed 6' 11"
Freshwater: 100 gal
Gray Water: 45 gal
Black Water: 45 gal
We finally dialed it in and have decided on the floor plan for the new toyhauler. Diana and I wanted the smallest front bedroom setup available in a TT so we could keep the Can Am inside and have a place to sleep while in transit. Downside is a 10 -12 week build time
I will start off by saying that I DID NOT purchase a Dune Sport but rather a Jayco. Why?
While we were looking at what to purchase, we noticed Dune Sport was always $6K less and had dozens of floor plans. Since we live in the Phoenix area, I made my way over to their offices. They had a 23' model that was being "prepped" for delivery to NM so I got to take a look at an actual ordered item. Well let me say this, the build quality just looked poor. The cabinents are crap, the bathroom door is paper thin and it just gets worse like crooked tape lines, etc. I wish I could be kidding about this next part but the toilet really looked like a Home Depot "Homer" bucket painted white and bolted to the floor. What was strange about this is the fact that their website shows tons of pictures of a "unit" but I've got to say the unit in person is a totally different picture.
When I walked in, I almost felt like I was going to fall through the floor, no kidding. There was a mess of tools on the floor as it was clear that they were "fixing" a lot of items. I couldn't believe I could see the staples holding the wall panels up and everything from the windows to the fixtures screamed bottom of the barrel from China.
From Dune Sport I went right over to another dealer and the second I saw the Jayco and even another dealer model, it was a night and day difference over the Dune Sport.
In the end, we purchased the Jayco because it was fully loaded, immediately available and the history of Jayco gave us the warm and fuzzy if you know what I mean. Who knows, maybe the Dune Sport will work for others but it just wasn't for us...too many cut corners in my book now that I own one.
Good luck!
What's work? Oh, playing in the sand in the Southwest!
You can find us hanging in our Jayco T 24 ZX or out riding.
About all I can say is there are families out there that like the bigger trailers.
Good luck with the purchase.
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Duramax Diesel - Edge w/ Attitude / 4" exhaust / Cold Air Intake
45-gallon TransferFlow Tank
4" Lift
Air Bags
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One last thing and it had to do with the sink/stove area. First, the sink in that unit literally had the lower left corner sitting on top of the lower right corner of the burner top. Right below that, where the two counter edges came together, one stuck out several inches over the other. It was a horrible cut job for both the countertop sink hole then the countertop edge finishing.
The website where they show the "manufacturing" photos also scared the living heck out of us. SoCal weather is not the best for leavig your "assembly" projects out in the open air and weather elements for weeks on end.
And on their R13 insulation bragging, it was an OVEN in that box and the AC was cranked. Probably good for northern folk but no thanks on the extra weight, which yes, the grossly under estimate and or tell you. I just knew the unit was NOT going to be 5500lbs wet....EVER!
Monday, I drove down to kick tires and inspect the Dune Sport models at their Mesa Arizona store and had the opportunity to meet and get a tour of the place from the owner Chance Tyler. I was impressed with the company and how they conduct their business. It was a long trip from Santa Cruz to Mesa Arizona, but I enjoyed the ride. By the way, Chance is a passionate off road rider and turned his hobby into his career.
This will be our third toyhauler purchase and I look at these rigs as a big box to carry my toys in and add modifications. There are not many manufacturers that give you the option of building your toyhauler to your specific desires and needs. I have a pretty decent understanding of how most toyhaulers are built and if you want a good basic, structurally sound unit, DS will fit the bill. The photos that are on their website truly represent what you are getting. The rear door ramp is very impressive and well built. The appliances installed are top notch, I did not see cabinet or counter issues, the bath door is that same thickness found on 90% of all RV interior doors. The floor did not bounce, they use a standard RV plastic toilet for reducing weight, but you have the option of a porcelain toilet. The frame and outriggers are well designed and heavy duty. They use stainless steel sinks and not plastic sinks as most of the industry uses. The wires running under the floor are all secured properly, unlike my Warrior rigs. BTW, I looked everywhere, but did not see "China" anywhere. The hardware is the same as is found in 90% of all toyhaulers. Sure, you can knit pick any toyhauler manufacturer, but these guys seem to be extremely competitive for what they are selling. There is no negotiating with their prices, therefore no haggling and it is what it is.
Their toyhaulers have a one year warranty, they stand behind their product, they've been in business for 4 years and are backlogged with orders even in this economy. They do belong to the BBB. If you want to see their products (which I recommend), when I visited, they had about 10 rigs that were on site for inspection.
By the way, I'm encouraging my son to seriously look at their 12 foot mini toyhauler just over 2000 pounds. It is really nice. He has a little Toyota Tundra and it would fit the bill perfectly for his needs. Mini Toyhauler
Here are the photos I took yesterday:
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Not to nit-pick but did you get to go inside each and every one on the lot there for inspection or only the 2-3 around the side-door entrance?
Did you pull a drawer out on those cheap rails? They showed you the unit with the "range hood" which I still laugh at because it is nothing but extra weight.
Speaking of the weight, that stainless steel sink is just another example of waste. I believe the other poster here can attest to the huge difference in his delivered weight.
Oh, did they mention that the Onan is not mounted with the recommended clearences? The sides should have a minimum of 6.4in including the backside. The top should have a minimum of 12.5in. The front, if covered by a panel should have .25 in air inlets directly in line with the cover air inlets. On another forum, a owner of one of these Dune contraptions cannot run his Onan when the outside temp is over 90 because it has an auto-shut off to prevent overheating and guess why........
C'mon, hydrualic and hand crank beds. Did you see the unit with the foot and a half entry in to the "queen" bed? I'm wondering if they showed you something that was ultra special order because the stock stuff they had available certainly isn't what you are describing. Maybe their inspection/on-site delivery repair process is that good.
Like I said, there is unit for everyone.....at least you shouldn't be shocked if your milage varies upon your delivery and we look forward to your review.
garyhartaz wrote: Not to nit-pick but did you get to go inside each and every one on the lot there for inspection or only the 2-3 around the side-door entrance?
Did you pull a drawer out on those cheap rails? They showed you the unit with the "range hood" which I still laugh at because it is nothing but extra weight.
Speaking of the weight, that stainless steel sink is just another example of waste. I believe the other poster here can attest to the huge difference in his delivered weight.
Oh, did they mention that the Onan is not mounted with the recommended clearences? The sides should have a minimum of 6.4in including the backside. The top should have a minimum of 12.5in. The front, if covered by a panel should have .25 in air inlets directly in line with the cover air inlets. On another forum, a owner of one of these Dune contraptions cannot run his Onan when the outside temp is over 90 because it has an auto-shut off to prevent overheating and guess why........
C'mon, hydrualic and hand crank beds. Did you see the unit with the foot and a half entry in to the "queen" bed? I'm wondering if they showed you something that was ultra special order because the stock stuff they had available certainly isn't what you are describing. Maybe their inspection/on-site delivery repair process is that good.
Like I said, there is unit for everyone.....at least you shouldn't be shocked if your milage varies upon your delivery and we look forward to your review.
Yes, I did go inside more than "2-3" and I'm not in trying to have a pissing contest with you, I'm just stating what I saw. I wonder if the other forum fella with the generator problem ever approached DS to fix the problem? My WW's also had inexpensive draw rails as do a majority of TH's. If you want the expensive stuff, be prepared to pay for it. If your truck can't spare the power to pull a stainless steel sink, then you have problems. My personal choice is stainless steel over plastic. As you stated, there is a unit for everyone.
No, the DS is not a Fusion....... and I know the difference, as you do. Congrats, I see you purchased a brand new 2010 Jayco Octane ZX. Welcome to rv.net
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pissing contests are fun, just don't cross paths. there will always be a good and bad to everything. maybe Chance had a discussion with his manufacturer about the quality of the build and not to cut corners in a rush. it's forgotten that this is not your luxury style toyhauler with all the bells and whistles. this is a toyhauler to haul your toys and camp in, and towable with a v6 (in most cases). and lastly, as is the motto in any kind of product/service transaction - YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. it's like paying $10K for a corvette and finding out it has no LS6 engine.
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