Muskie
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They did not check the truck, as a matter a fact they even said there is no problem with the specs as far as the truck went. I just got back from the License centre and was told that the written part of the exam ($85.) is the same as transport drivers so I would have to know length, width, etc. , but also have to know all the hours and cycles of drive time off and on. But when the road test comes and I bring the RV. then at that point I would get an "A-r" or A restricted attached to my license. I picked up my medical form and my wife (former nurse) said it could be anywhere from 0 to $200.
Whew! I beginning to think like a rebel. Although I would like to have it.
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kampinguru
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I just went through this as well. If the trailer weighs over 10,300lbs you need an A or a restricted A license. A restricted A is basically a money grb to allow pickups with large trailers to tow legally. The road test for the restricted A is done in your truck with your trailer. You cannot drive commercially with a restricted A and obviously no airbrake Z endorsement. I chose to go to Adanac Driving School in Scarborough and take the full AZ license with medical. I am not sure if you need a medical for the restricted A or not. This regulation came into effect June 1st 2009.
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Muskie
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Bye the way everyone, this was the OPP division of road safety not the MTO.
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Hamops
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moe f wrote:AYRTIME wrote:
Here is the "G" License info quote from Ontario Ministry of Transportation web site..
"Any car, van or small truck or combination of vehicle and towed vehicle up to 11,000 kg (24,200 lbs) provided the towed vehicle is not over 4,600 kg. (10,120 lbs)".
Am I correct in presuming the 4600KGS is the weight on the towed vehicle's axles and excludes pin or hitch weight??
The 4600KGs is the weight the axles impress on the ground when the towed vehicle is hitched to the tow vehicle.
I've had this issue out with the MTO a couple of years ago and they replied to me that the G licence meets the regulation as long as the axle weight of the trailer does not exceed the 4600KG limit. So if you have any trailer that has a GVWR of 12000# or less, then you should be ok with a G license. If you have doubts, then have your setup weighed at a CAT scale.
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Hamops
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Muskie wrote:Bye the way everyone, this was the OPP division of road safety not the MTO.
Then it's time the OPP learn the correct interpretation of the Regulation.
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wrouleau wrote:Muskie,
May I assume this only applies to drivers and rigs registered in Canada?
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Ontario has reciprocity agreements that allow for out of province drivers to operate their vehicles here as long as they are abiding by their state or provincial regulations. Otherwords, if you are legal in your state or province then you are legal here. All you need to do is follow the local speed limits and buckle up.
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That is what I thought.
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azandy70
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I am not going to start a huge debate, but I am in favor of us RVers having to have a different license to tow a certain weight or length.
My fiver is not very big, but does tow the same as our larger landscape equipment. Our equipment requires a class A license in WI and a Federal Med card. This is for a combined weight of 26K or more. Most of us will not hit that mark.
Maybe at least a written test for combined weight of 15K or 65 feet.
I think it would help the safety of all of us. We all have seen some crazy people, 1st time out with their new toy and have no clue how to handle or operate it. Endangering all on the road.
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adcomkevin
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I'm from Manitoba and I had to get my class 3 which only requires you do get your medical every 3 years after 40 then yearly after 60 I believe. But no road test. My Dad has been fighting with Ontario for the last few months as he will have to do his test and get his medical every single year.
My Dad contacted the RV Dealers ASSN and they are currently in discussion with the Province to revise the testing required as it currently makes no sense. Those will a Class A can drive a much larger vehicle as long as what they are towing is not over 10K.
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azandy70 wrote:I am not going to start a huge debate, but I am in favor of us RVers having to have a different license to tow a certain weight or length.
My fiver is not very big, but does tow the same as our larger landscape equipment. Our equipment requires a class A license in WI and a Federal Med card. This is for a combined weight of 26K or more. Most of us will not hit that mark.
Maybe at least a written test for combined weight of 15K or 65 feet.
I think it would help the safety of all of us. We all have seen some crazy people, 1st time out with their new toy and have no clue how to handle or operate it. Endangering all on the road.
What about the great big 38 ft plus Class A Motorhome's with weights of 25,000 lbs plus. No license required other then the standard G class license required to drive a smart car.
Give me a break
The AR license class is nothing but an administrative effort to stop unethical transport driving schools from encouraging students to test out with the MTO with a small commercial gooseneck or fifthwheel utility trailer one day and drive 53ft commercial transport trucks the next day after passing their test.
It was not intended to address private individuals towing RV's. The RV Dealers Association in Canada has been discussing RV licensing issues with the Ontario government for years but nothing ever comes of it.
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