Jimehc
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I too, doubt if you will be running "fully loaded" in both the trailer and the truck, so you should be fine..
I pull about the same trailer numbers as you with a 318ci and 3.56 gears... It is not a speed demon off the line and does bog down on long hills, but it gets me there and back at 65 mph
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grump 442
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After reading the discussion about tow vehicle weights I had my 2008 Chev 2500 HD Crew Cab 4X4 Duramax engine 3.73 axle ratio, 6 1/2 foot box weighed. It has a cab high cover. With the fuel tank 3/4 full it came it at 7,160 pounds. The GVWR on the truck is 9,200 pounds. Now subtract 7,160 from 9,200 the payload is 2,040 pounds. My travel trailer is a 26 foot Trail Lite by R-Vision. The factory lists the total dry weight as 3,987 pounds. The GCWR for my truck is 22,000 pounds. GM claims that the tongue weight should be 10 to 15 percent of the total loaded trailer weight (up to 1500 lbs.) I have not weighed the trailer when it was loaded and I may not. I doubt very much if I would ever over load this truck/trailer combination. A person just needs to know what the TV and TT weigh empty and then using a bathroom scale weigh what goes in, if you really want to be fussy. It is very interesting how quick the weight builds when packing the TT for a vacation/weekend or for the winter trip south.
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manm
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TXiceman wrote:As much as Dodge would like you to belive, the Hemmi cannot pull anytihng it can latch on to. The 31' TT is going to be too much for a 1/2 truck, even if it has a Hemi under the hood.
ken
I diff to begger!!
My Hemi would pull my 35' trailer just fine and also handled it just fine. Could evan pass people! Loaded it is 9000lbs. The only major problem with my 1/2 ton towing it is the 6mpg it got against any headwind!
I went with a bigger truck because I wanted better fuel mil;age and I have quads that I put up on the deck of the truck...
Saber 30BHDS 35F TT (was)pulled by a 07 Dodge 1500 4x4...
-=New for 2010!=- 05 F-350 dually King Ranch loaded w/sled/atv deck for the toys. Not worried about weight limits anymore!
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atvanish
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TXiceman wrote:As much as Dodge would like you to belive, the Hemmi cannot pull anytihng it can latch on to. The 31' TT is going to be too much for a 1/2 truck, even if it has a Hemi under the hood.
ken
I'll also beg to differ..
My Hemi in my Durango is rated for 7400lbs and in my truck it's rated at 10,600 lbs... I know it's a 3.55 vs 4.56 gear but same engine and same transmission...And the truck weighs alot more to start out with!
The only people that think a Hemi (or any newer small block for that matter) that can't pull 6-8k lbs are either:
- Trying to justify buying a diesel to be 'cool'
- Afraid of listening to the engine sing at 4500-5000 RPM
- Don't like the 6-8 mpg in the hills
Sorry - Rant off... lol Just bothers me when people don't think gas engines can pull anything bigger than a pop up.
And before I accidentally start the gas vs diesel war - I have owned two newer diesels and would recommend them to anyone over 10k lbs or that tows for a living!
2004 Dodge Durango Limited, 4x4 Hemi, 3.55
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 POWER WAGON, 4x4, Hemi, 4.56's
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rgbutten
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Have you ever bought a 4 man raft for 4 men? A 6 man tent for 6 men?
A tow vehicle / trailer combo at their max is usually similar with the suv or 1/2 ton rigs - uncomfortable ... imho.
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TXiceman
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As much as Dodge would like you to belive, the Hemmi cannot pull anytihng it can latch on to. The 31' TT is going to be too much for a 1/2 truck, even if it has a Hemi under the hood.
ken
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rgbutten wrote:Have you ever bought a 4 man raft for 4 men? A 6 man tent for 6 men?
A tow vehicle / trailer combo at their max is usually similar with the suv or 1/2 ton rigs - uncomfortable ... imho.
a good point, my 4 man hot tub is about right for two folks of different sex, if you both are nekkid.
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bumpy, bumpy, bumpy ... and you average nearly 13 posts a day??? LOL!
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Terryallan
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LarryJM wrote:Terryallan wrote:Revo-Ray wrote:Also take into consideration your wheelbase (119") towing a 31' trailer.
Someone else had this link, its a good rule of thumb.
Wheelbase and Length
The lengths to WB listed, are pretty much wrong. and not really a good rule of thumb. There is NO relable WB to trailer length formula.
The best rule of thumb, well just rule. stay inside the factory recomended weights, and you will be good. By the time the trailer gets too long. You will be over weight.
I believe the OP will be over weight by the time he loads the TV, and hooks the dry TT to the TV. 12500lb GCVW is not that great. Plus. The weight given was brochure weight. It will be heavier than that when it gets here.
While I agree that the table you are referring to is overly pessimistic it does make the point that WB does matter in the overall stability of a TV/TT combo and just using wts. as you suggest is also just as bad as the table you say is not a good ROT.
The GCWR limit has little to do with the overall safety and stability of a particular TV/TT combo. Such factors as proper tongue wt., TV to TT weight, and TV WB to overall TT length are much more important ... it's just there is no real formula out there to plug in numbers to get a feel for how safe and stable any particular TV/TT combo will be. Of course the final factor is a properly matched and tuned in WDH and sway control system. The best source is actual experiences from those that have been there, done it and have the T-shirt.
I know I would not want to be towing a 31' TT with a 119" WB vehicle and personally based on everything I have read would be looking for a TT in the 26/27' and under range with a GVWR of no more than about 6,000 lbs.
Larry
But they don't take into acount the most important factor in any TV. Which is the rear over hang. a long WB with a long rear overhang is much less stable than a shorter WB with a short rear over hang. To not use the rear overhang in any equasion. Is a complete waste of time.
Also notice. No manufacturers say anything about WB. Why? Because they already figured it into the weight rating They give the truck. They know. You will run out of weight capacity. Before you run out of length
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