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driveby

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Posted: 07/27/10 08:09pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Drove down from Campbell River to Nanaimo last weekend and fire notes were at the High/Extreme level. Every place we saw had a fire ban.

Good for us because we like smoke free camping but if you're planning a weenie/smore roast, bring the "fake" fire from home.

this was east side of the island, not sure about West side or south of Nanaimo.


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It's the same in the interior of BC. NO CAMP FIRES ALLOWED.

It's been around 40C at some places, that's bloody hot.

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Posted: 07/27/10 11:21pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Fake as in propane fire pits are also part of the ban.

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Posted: 07/27/10 11:33pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tothill wrote:

Fake as in propane fire pits are also part of the ban.


Yep! Any Open Flame is Banned that includes using Candles!


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Posted: 07/28/10 12:15am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

robatthelake wrote:

Tothill wrote:

Fake as in propane fire pits are also part of the ban.


Yep! Any Open Flame is Banned that includes using Candles!

That is INCORRECT. Read the OFFICIAL link that I posted above and you will see that it says:

The ban does not apply to cooking stoves that use gas, propane or briquettes, or to portable campfire apparatus with a CSA or ULC rating using briquettes, liquid or gaseous fuel, as long as the operator maintains it with a flame length no longer than 15 centimetres. Campfire apparatus that do not meet these requirements are prohibited.


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Posted: 07/27/10 09:03pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Almost the entire is under a no camp fire ban, not just the island:

http://bcwildfire.ca/hprScripts/WildfireNews/Bans.asp

The news was saying tonight that they will be banning smoking on all public parks and beaches in the city:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati........moking-ban-arrives-early/article1653005/

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By The Canadian Press


KAMLOOPS, B.C. - Hundreds of homes in Kamloops, B.C., are threatened by a wildfire that broke out Tuesday evening on the edge of the southern Interior city, 350 kilometres northeast of Vancouver.

As many as 150 people have been evacuated from a nearby trailer park on the eastern edge of the city and hundreds more residents living in suburbs around Valleyview, Juniper and Barnhartvale are on evacuation alert.

Kamloops Fire Captain Sheldon Guertin says the blaze tripled in size within hours and is now burning over about 30 hectares of steep grasslands and bush.

He says firefighters and B.C. Forest Service crews now believe it is 55 per cent contained but several heavily forested ravines lie in the path of the flames.

He says those ravines and many dead standing trees are fuelling the blaze.

No homes have been lost and Guertin says a plan for helicopter water drops or other air support is coming. (CHNL, CFJC)

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... as long as the operator maintains it with a flame length no longer than 15 centimetres.

15 cm = 5.9 inches.

Not much of a fire, regardless.

I'm not complaining about the fire ban -- just clarifying that even though you may have an approved apparatus, you are limited to a flame not exceeding 6" in height.


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VirtualGarage wrote:

robatthelake wrote:

Tothill wrote:

Fake as in propane fire pits are also part of the ban.


Yep! Any Open Flame is Banned that includes using Candles!

That is INCORRECT. Read the OFFICIAL link that I posted above and you will see that it says:

The ban does not apply to cooking stoves that use gas, propane or briquettes, or to portable campfire apparatus with a CSA or ULC rating using briquettes, liquid or gaseous fuel, as long as the operator maintains it with a flame length no longer than 15 centimetres. Campfire apparatus that do not meet these requirements are prohibited.


Hi VG,

We are both correct. I was looking at the BC Parks regs, you were looking at the BC environment regs.

BC Parks Fire Ban FAQ

"What can I cook with?

A campfire ban does not restrict cooking with stoves using gas, propane, or briquettes.

A campfire ban prohibits the use of open fires in burn barrels, fireworks and other open flame campfire apparatus. Portable gas fuelled fire rings are also considered open burning as described in the Wildfire Act and Wildfire Regulation, and are not permitted."

I was checking the BC Parks regs as we do most our camping in BC Parks. We have a portable propane fire and I wanted to know if I should pack it.

I should have posted the link in my original post. I appreciate that you did in your post and that you followed up.

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Posted: 07/28/10 09:24am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Tothill wrote:

I was looking at the BC Parks regs, you were looking at the BC environment regs.

BC Parks Fire Ban FAQ

Well, that's certainly confusing.

The BC Parks page itself states to refer to the Ministry of Forests and Range Fire Ban page (the link I posted) for further information about fire restrictions and they state themselves that the bans are imposed in accordance to the Wildfire Act (which is that link I posted). In fact they make reference to that site in several places on their site. And they say to check it for the latest information.

When you look at the details of the ban, there is no separate jurisdiction. The Ministry of Forests and Range Fire ban covers BC Parks:

"This ban covers all BC Parks, Crown and private lands, but does not apply within the boundaries of local governments that have forest fire prevention bylaws and are serviced by a fire department."

The BC Parks page also says: "BC Parks will provide information about park closures or campfire bans when notified by MOFR." I wonder if the policy changed at the Ministry level and BC Parks failed to update their web page.

I, myself, would follow the information from the Ministry of Forests and Range since they have jurisdiction over BC Parks.

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