Travelon
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If you want to hear someone say "Sure can, no problem" you will not hear from me. The short answer is no.
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JIMNLIN
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ib516 wrote:Amazed no one has asked - is that 14100# the dry or empty weight or GVWR? If it is GVWR, you'll be fine. If it is empty weight, you'll be too heavy. As stated by Chris on the first page, the only difference between a Dodge 2500 and 3500 SRW is one more rear spring pack. Add airbags, and you have the same thing.
Looking at Coachman web only a few of their largest 5ers are over 15k GVWR.
Even if the 14100 was a dry weight the 2011 GM 2500 would work great. GM gives it a 10000 GVWR with a 6200 RAWR and up to a 17900 lb trailer tow rating.
Agree with the 14100 numbers and what it represents.
The OP already has his mind made up with a "I know I can...should I...would U" type statement. I'd tell him to go for it but just make sure his rear tires are up to carrying that much pin weight.
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45Ricochet
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I would say no without added devices to the truck. If that 14k is GVWR your pin would be ~2800 lbs. Having said that, I see 250/2500 towing that all the time. Heck I hear in these forums about 150/1500 doing it also.
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I have a much bigger/heavier trailer being towed with a similar truck and am only 200lbs over truck GVWR fully loaded for a week's camping with the whole family.
You're looking at a lighter trailer, so you should be fine, but you need to get ACTUAL weights to know for sure.
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As opinions go, everyone has one of course. Here's mine: You're at the top range of a BEEFED 250/2500/350/3500 SRW and that would be a wet weight, fully-loaded, trailer. Beefed simply means higher rated tires and wheels, air bags, and heavy duty sway bars. The weakest link of 3/4 and 1 tons are the wheels and tires. Look at their ratings. Dually has added advantage of anti-sway, but heavier duty sway bars and airbags help a good bit with SRW stability. Power train between SRW and dually is the same and trailer is designed to stop itself. A dually will not pull better nor will it stop much, if any, better than a SRW which is why trailer's are designed with their own brakes. My SRW is a beast with the highest-rated upgrades listed above and more. I'm pulling a 14,000lb wet trailer. Now, if you're not willing to do all of the SRW upgrades (expensive), I'd go to a dually. Actually, I'd still recommend a dually.
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Brent and Gina wrote:As opinions go, everyone has one of course. Here's mine: You're at the top range of a BEEFED 250/2500/350/3500 SRW and that would be a wet weight, fully-loaded, trailer. Beefed simply means higher rated tires and wheels, air bags, and heavy duty sway bars. The weakest link of 3/4 and 1 tons are the wheels and tires. Look at their ratings. Dually has added advantage of anti-sway, but heavier duty sway bars and airbags help a good bit with SRW stability. Power train between SRW and dually is the same and trailer is designed to stop itself. A dually will not pull better nor will it stop much, if any, better than a SRW which is why trailer's are designed with their own brakes. My SRW is a beast with the highest-rated upgrades listed above and more. I'm pulling a 14,000lb wet trailer. Now, if you're not willing to do all of the SRW upgrades (expensive), I'd go to a dually. Actually, I'd still recommend a dually.
With that year Dodge the difference between the 2500 and SRW 3500 is on rear leaf and frame mounted spring stops, door tags, labels and a few hundred dollars. The difference going to the DRW 3500 is the extra two rear wheels and tires. EVERYTHING ELSE is the same. Exhaust Brake, tranny, engine, service brakes, etc etc.
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Thanks everybody. I wasn't sure that's why I asked. Pulling a 6000# bumper toy hauler is a little different than this 5. For safety's sake and piece of mind, just got a 2010 Ram 3500 dually and transferring airbags from 2500. Thinking about bigrig wheels and tires, but that will be a different post. Thanks again appreciate the input.
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caseybloo wrote:Thanks everybody. I wasn't sure that's why I asked. Pulling a 6000# bumper toy hauler is a little different than this 5. For safety's sake and piece of mind, just got a 2010 Ram 3500 dually and transferring airbags from 2500. Thinking about bigrig wheels and tires, but that will be a different post. Thanks again appreciate the input.
good choice. Great rig and most of all, a safer experience. Enjoy your adventures.
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ib516 wrote:Amazed no one has asked - is that 14100# the dry or empty weight or GVWR? If it is GVWR, you'll be fine. If it is empty weight, you'll be too heavy. As stated by Chris on the first page, the only difference between a Dodge 2500 and 3500 SRW is one more rear spring pack. Add airbags, and you have the same thing.
airbags don't take the place of overload leaf springs. an extra leaf spring will increase GVWR, even GRAR, airbags won't, they just help level a load....even the airbag manufacturer will tell you that.
All that said, it appears the op. has decided to go with a bigger rig. They will now enjoy a better towing experience.
I had an 04 Coachmen Somerset Dreamcatcher, with 3 slides, it was a 37'. GVW was 14,500 and it never weighed more than 13,500#, give or take a hundred pounds or so. On a trip to the beach, while towing with an 03' 2500HD D/A long bed/excab, I weighed the rig. GVWR of the truck was 9200#, I was at 10,100#...900# over GVWR and also over RAWR...Oh, before all that, I had this discussion with the weight police in here who told me I was over...I ridiculed them and called them names and to prove them wrong, I had everything weighed...thus finding out the "weight police" were right...I manned up and apologized for the name calling, now I'm a card carrying weight police myself....I did go out and purchase a 1 ton dually...figured it would be enough truck for the job...best and smartest thing I had done in a while...hard to beat the stability of the towing experience when driving on curvy mountainous roads
ON EDIT: I believe you'll find you won't need those airbags on the 3500 dually, same truck I have towing a heavier 5er...but, I can't blame you for holding on to them.....
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Why are you asking everyone else when they dont know what the trailer weighs or the towing capacity for your truck ? Do your homework, find out what the trailer weighs, find out what the towing capacity for your truck is.
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