Geewizard
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I think this is a camper trailer rather than a TC but the lesson is valid regardless!
Owner survives explosion of camper
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Trailer Trash 2
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Raften
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Well he has some time on his hands so to speak while his hands heal so I'd be using that time to have a long talk to the previous owner and then a lawyer.
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JoeChiOhki
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The question is, did he do a personal inspection of the unit before he turned the gas on. Given that they report there was an uncapped gas line behind the fridge, that would lead me to believe that the last owner was no longer using the propane system and had changed out to an electric fridge (The trailer next to me at the rv park I live has basically had almost every propane appliance removed in exchange for electric ones, owner has no plans to ever move it again).
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Chuck and Di
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Raften wrote:Well he has some time on his hands so to speak while his hands heal so I'd be using that time to have a long talk to the previous owner and then a lawyer.
*sigh* remember when people took responsibility for their own actions instead of trying to find someone else to blame? You know, back before you could turn any unfortunate incident into a payday? I sure miss those days.
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nycsteve
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Chuck and Di wrote:Raften wrote:Well he has some time on his hands so to speak while his hands heal so I'd be using that time to have a long talk to the previous owner and then a lawyer.
*sigh* remember when people took responsibility for their own actions instead of trying to find someone else to blame? You know, back before you could turn any unfortunate incident into a payday? I sure miss those days.
If the situation is that the previous owner sold the trailer with an open propane line, that he knew about, that would be a case of negligence. Dont you think? The seller has an obligation to imform the buyer about something like that , not just pocket the $$ and run.
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A few weeks ago I woke up to a huge explosion and fire ball out my bedroom window. A quick check found my neighbors small tag along engulfed in 30 foot flames. Story in the paper said he had been working on the propane for the refrigerator.
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Chuck and Di
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nycsteve wrote:
If the situation is that the previous owner sold the trailer with an open propane line, that he knew about, that would be a case of negligence. Dont you think? The seller has an obligation to imform the buyer about something like that , not just pocket the $$ and run.
And if he did not know, or did inform but the buyer forgot, he gets at best a huge legal bill and at worst loss of home and income through somebody unable to admit they were too stupid to inspect an old gas system before using it.
Sorry, I'm not buying that position. This is no different than lawsuits that put the responsibility on the bartender to decide when a client has had enough, or lawsuits against ski hills because somebody fell. We've become a nation of litigious blame seekers passing nanny laws at every turn where every unfortunate accident is somebody elses fault, no matter what we were doing.
The expression used to be "buyer beware". Now "seller beware" is usually more appropriate.
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nycsteve
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Chuck and Di wrote:nycsteve wrote:
If the situation is that the previous owner sold the trailer with an open propane line, that he knew about, that would be a case of negligence. Dont you think? The seller has an obligation to imform the buyer about something like that , not just pocket the $$ and run.
And if he did not know, or did inform but the buyer forgot, he gets at best a huge legal bill and at worst loss of home and income through somebody unable to admit they were too stupid to inspect an old gas system before using it.
Sorry, I'm not buying that position. This is no different than lawsuits that put the responsibility on the bartender to decide when a client has had enough, or lawsuits against ski hills because somebody fell. We've become a nation of litigious blame seekers passing nanny laws at every turn where every unfortunate accident is somebody elses fault, no matter what we were doing.
The expression used to be "buyer beware". Now "seller beware" is usually more appropriate.
(Time to turn up my collar - my sunburned neck seems to be showing )
How about you buy a car from a guy in the paper and the brakes fail causing a serious accident on the way home? Suppose the seller knew there were serious issues with the brakes but not wanting to sour the sale said nothing assuming the buyer would figure it out before he crashed. No problems there?
I agree, today people have problems taking responsibilty for thier own mistakes. And stupid lawsuits. My favorite was the lady who burned her ..... lap area..... with a MacDonalds takeout coffee she drove off with between her legs. The reasoning MacDonalds was at fault, the coffee was hot. Not the lady was an idiot.She got 150,000. But not disclosing known life threating issues like open propane lines to make a quick buck, differant. Nondisclosure motivated by selfish greed resulting in injury definitly opens one to litigation in todays world, making the seller in a situation like this stupid for making themselves vunerable to litigation for a few bucks.
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Chuck and Di
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In you last example, I see the buyer at fault for not having a safety check before driving. You will not be able to come up with an example I'd agree to, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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