pharmafrog
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I finally saw the payload difference. If I do go with a F250 I still am 1000lbs in the black on the payload. I am not sure what is recommended, but I am not overly excited about going with a 350.
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duane124
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you'll be fine with a 250(with the weights you quoted)
96 f250 7.3 liter psd owner here
some peeps around think anything less than a 350 is only designed to pull lawnmower trailers
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There isn't a big price difference 250/350. Most part is the extra spring pack which I believe isn't used till you get the weight on it. I know Dodge is that way. As Brad said, most people will get a bigger 5er down the road and you'll already have the truck for it. If not a 250 should be fine for the 5er you listed.
I just hate it when someone does exactly what you are thinking about and 3 years from now they upgrade to a bigger RV, which means usually turning the 250 into a 350 with after market items.
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IMHO the two major weight numbers you need to look at are
GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) of the truck on driver door panel, and GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating) of the 5er and truck which is a combination of the trucks weight fully loaded and the 5er fully loaded. You will be suprised when both are fully loaded how much additional weight is added. This has been talked about many times on this and other forums and you will get many different responses to your question. Many will say a 3/4 ton is just fine, others will say buy as big as you can. Ultimately you need to make the decision. I had a 3/4 ton 2500 and while this vehicle pulled my 5er no problem over 40k miles, and you see many combinations like this everywhere you travel, I found out I was 1200-1500lbs over the GVWR of the truck and for piece of mind and safety I moved up to a 1 ton 3500 dually to have the appropriate margin of safety needed both for me the DW and other travelers on the road. I also want to be within legal limits.
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You are going to be close to max on a 2500 or 250. It's not the truck as much as the tires they say 1750 # pin weight which in reality will be 2000# Can't hardly weigh a truck you don't have but if you could take one on a test drive and have it weighed as you were testing it, you could figure out if thats enough truck.a dually would do it but most don't want the width of them. Sometimes a bigger tire would satisfy the safety margin?
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pharmafrog
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Thanks for the info. I am definatley drinking from a fire hose here. These are the numbers that I come up with for the 250. If people see any flaws let me know.
F250
GVWR - 10,000
TLR + 1K gear 12,200
Total 22,200
GCWR - 23,500
Still good to go. If I am looking at this correctly. I dont ever think I will have 10,000 on the truck. Curb weight is 6600. Pin weight is 1750 + 1000 at most for people & Gear puts me at 9350 GVW. So that looks good. I am still under for payload on the pin and 5er tow rating. If that is all correct, I have learned far more than I though I would need, but am now armed with good info.
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A F250 of that model year is certianly within it's ability to pull the trailer listed and stay within the spec limits of the truck.
A Laredo is no Montana weight wise, even if you pack the trailer to the max allowed CCC you still only at 13K for the trailer. If you take the pin weight and use 20% thats within the payload of a newer gen Ford Superduty.
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pharmafrog wrote:Thanks for the info. I am definatley drinking from a fire hose here. These are the numbers that I come up with for the 250. If people see any flaws let me know.
F250
GVWR - 10,000
TLR + 1K gear 12,200
Total 22,200
GCWR - 23,500
Still good to go. If I am looking at this correctly. I dont ever think I will have 10,000 on the truck. Curb weight is 6600. Pin weight is 1750 + 1000 at most for people & Gear puts me at 9350 GVW. So that looks good. I am still under for payload on the pin and 5er tow rating. If that is all correct, I have learned far more than I though I would need, but am now armed with good info.
Curb wt for base truck XL standard cab 2X4 add wt for any accessory, + 5th Hitch, tool box, DW + any of your wt over 150#, maps , munchies, and anything stashed behind the seat.
1700# pin wt. that's a dry weight before any accessories if your expected gross trailer wt is 12,200 figure on a 2200-2400 pin wt.
I think you have already decided on a 250, as you argue against any opposition, so have it your way.
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I purchased an F250 power stroke, crew with 6 1/2 ft bed last year. You are right the tow capacities are too close to call. The engine, transmission and rear-end with tow package are the same. I added Firestone air bags and I think it was a mistake, but it is done. My 5r is a hair larger than the one you like. It handles great, more power than I need and no sagging of the rear end. Make sure you can make sharp turns and not hit the cab. May need slider hitch.
By the way, drive an F350 and then an F250 on freeway. That will make up your mind.
A lot of well meaning folks push the 350 because only a few years ago you needed a 350. Toyota trucks have forced major changes in American trucks.
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pharmafrog
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stickdog wrote:
Curb wt for base truck XL standard cab 2X4 add wt for any accessory, + 5th Hitch, tool box, DW + any of your wt over 150#, maps , munchies, and anything stashed behind the seat.
1700# pin wt. that's a dry weight before any accessories if your expected gross trailer wt is 12,200 figure on a 2200-2400 pin wt.
I think you have already decided on a 250, as you argue against any opposition, so have it your way.
Whoa, a bit rough! Hey I am learning here and trying to make sense of 500 different numbers on 5 different trucks with 25 different tires.
I am not arguing against opposition; however, I am not going to go out and dump money on a bunch of truck I do not need. I am sure I could pull the******out of the thing with a semi, but I am not going to.
I appreciate the info, but not the lack of understanding.
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