surveyorjp
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ricatic wrote:Hooray for ROODUDE and his dealer. The number one problem with the 6.0 is poor dealership technicians. Now before everyone gets upset, it was not always their fault. Ford dumped the truck on the dealers and had no tech support plan in place. Some dealerships never recovered from the debacle that caused. If you find a dealership like Roos with a 6.0 savvy mechanic, you will not have a parts thrower working on your truck. There are several websites out there. I like Ford Truck Enthusiasts the most. Go there and look in the 6.0 forum. As to the PShelp guy, he is ok but the best techs in the business know more and are not selling you something. I am not a Ford tech or a Ford dealership guy. I just own a 6.0 that I paid for the education I have.
You show me a more knowledgeable website with the detail that guy shows regarding the 6.0 PSD. Please, seriously show me. There are lots of owners here who would love the info.
The www.powerstrokehelp.com guy has literally hours of info regarding the 6.0 L PSD and its weaknesses on his website. He may not be the best, but I'd say he is much better than "OK".
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Surveyer...
Why the anger... and I did give you a great website. I have watched Bill Hewitt's videos, he's a great promoter. I do agree he has some real good info in there. However, there are several things he states that are not supported by facts and some are just wrong. If someone takes the time to really look at the many web boards out there on the 6.0 it will not take long to find the real facts from other very knowledgeable people. As I said before, they are not trying to sell you something. Have a great day
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Well, it looks like the verdict's in. The truck needed an injector pump replaced (total about $1,800) and here was the apparent reason why. I purchased the truck about a month ago from an independent used vehicle dealer (been in business about 50 years). Unfortunately, the dealership had a "lot boy" whose job is is to change oil, clean up and detail the vehicles. He apparently changed the oil in this particular truck and instead of using oil specifically made for diesel engines, he put in regular motor oil (there was a valvoline sticker in the corner of the windshield but it specify which valvoline was used). The mechanic said this probably caused the failure of the injector pump. Have been driving the truck about three weeks now (nearly 800 miles) and it seems to be doing OK. Let's hope!
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hughdog,
Thanks for the update. I wish you well with your truck. If you have been following any of the recent threads regarding the 6.0 engine on this site you have had some interesting reading. You now own this truck and need to know the best ways to ensure a long and reliable life. Please look around and see what options you have to accomplish this. I recommend you go to the FTE site and look around as well. Here is the info: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum107/
Welcome to the Ford 6.0 family, it is not as bad as many will try to tell you.
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Umm..... Anger?  No anger here. I just happen to think the PSD help guy is pretty knowledgeable regarding the 6.0L PSD and I respectfully disagree with your assertion that he is "OK". When I watched his videos, it really openned my eyes to what the true issues are, and I think this info is valuable to anyone who owns or is considering purchasing that engine. JMHO.
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My apologies, Surveyor, I must have read something in your post that was not there. In saying he is OK I was recognizing his contributions. As I have not watched his videos in a while, have you noticed if or what his opinion on the egr cooler/oil cooler failures is? If you know which video that he mentions that issue let me know.
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When you find out what it is, post back. I have a friend with THE SAME STALLING/DEAD PEDAL issue who has been looking for it's cause for 8 months. It only does it once in a while, but it the exact same thing you described. His is an 03 6.0L PSD F350 SRW.
Edit: I see it was the injection pump.
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In the future, if you ever have a no-start issue on a 6.0L PSD, especially after the engine reaches operating temperature look towards the HPOP, or "high pressure oil pump"
These things use engine oil, and operate at very high pressures. The HPOP is needed to fire the HEUI, or hydraulic/electric unit injector. If the HPOP fails, or the HPOP fittings start leaking, the HPOP wont be able to produce enough pressure to fire the injectors.
One sure way to tell if a HPOP is the reason for a hot no-start is to flood the center of the engine, or lifter valley with cool water. On the 6.0L that I drove I used this method to cool down the 6.0L enough to get the HPOP to intiate a hot start.
After the engine is running the HPOP leakage is minimal enough to allow the engine to continue running. However, I was told by a couple of Ford techs that by continuing to run an engine with this problem will cause injector damage. Also, eventually the HPOP leak will become severe enough that the HPOP wont be able to build pressure at a rate to keep the engine running.
BTW, this fix will set you back $2,100.00 depending on your service department's labor rates. The HPOP fix is only $300.00/parts, the rest is labor. 
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Is this a trick question? 
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As you can see, I have owned this truck for about 8 months and over 12,000 miles on it now. The second issue I had (after installing the $800 fuel pump at a Ford dealer) was replacing the injector pump (by an independent repair shop who were "diesel savvy") and that took care of the problem. This truck runs great now and has since making that repair. I'm sure the fuel pump never was the problem but couldn't prove it. So far so good and I'm happy with my 6.0 as a tow vehicle.
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Thanks for the update. You ,unfortunately, are a testimonial to the ongoing problem with poor Ford dealership service technicians. Although many here will disagree, it is still the biggest problem with the 6.0. It is great that you found a shop that knows how to fix the 6.0. I recommend a coolant filter and some engine monitoring equipment to keep you ahead of potential problems. PM me if you have any questions.
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