advntrs
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HappyTrails2U2 wrote:advntrs wrote:
It would be hard for us to go back to a conventional trailer after experiencing all the that extra room in the "V" configuration.
Actually if you bought a trailer with the same box dimensions (front of trailer to rear of trailer...not including tongue length or bumper etc.) you'd have more space in one with a conventional square nose than one with the V shape front. You lose that space that is at a diagonal up front.
Draw a square box on a piece of paper and then draw another one on top of it the same length except put a V shape front on it and you'll see what I mean.
Nope, that dog won't hunt.......A 28' VR1 has 33' feet of usable space. Granted, not all of that space is 8' wide, but I have a very roomy 2 sink bathroom where I would normally have an unusable A frame.
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I'm missing something about a box type TT having wasted or unused space? On a V-front TT wouldn't you have the gas bottles in the V?And if so then this would still be on the 3ft A part of the tounge,which is the same as a box type TT.I bet you if you measured the inside sq.feet of a V type TT and compared it to a box type TT the box would have more sq.ft.But as long as your happy with your TT it doesn't matter. My first thought about the V front is it would cut the wind better,but seeing what someone else stated about a 45degree wind that makes alot of sense.
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When you talk of usable space I think you should be talkin cubic feet not sq. ft. My 27 ft. v-cross is about 27x8x8 or aprox. 1728 cu. ft., the same as any flat front trailer but that does not include the volume of the triangular piece added over the tongue. I also don't lose as much space to the slope of the front end. We do lose a bit of the additional space to tank room, as you suggest but it is to the side under the kitchen counter in one of the cupboards. The rest of the space is all surplus when compared to a flat front, as I see it anyway. Old Guys
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HappyTrails2U2
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advntrs wrote:
Nope, that dog won't hunt.......A 28' VR1 has 33' feet of usable space. Granted, not all of that space is 8' wide, but I have a very roomy 2 sink bathroom where I would normally have an unusable A frame.
Not trying to bust your bubble just trying to make a point. These manufactures play games with their trailer lengths. In most cases they measure their trailers from the rear end of the spare tire all the way to the tip end of the hitch and state that as the length of the trailer. In reality a 34 ft trailer only has 30 linear ft of living space and should be called a 30 ft. trailer but they won't do that because they want people to think they're getting something bigger.
On the V shaped trailers they try to make people think they're getting something for free by advertising a 28 ft. trailer that has 33 ft of living space. You can't put a 33' box on a 28 ft. frame whether it's square or V shaped no matter how resourceful you are.
If you have 33 ft. of living space then you have a 33 ft. trailer and if you think you only paid for 28 ft. of it and got the other 5 ft.for free then I'm afraid that dog is the one that won't hunt.
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We just ordered the Rockwood Windjammer 3065. The bedroom is in the front of this unit and the "V" area is a "his and hers" closet.  Gotta keep momma happy! I'm going with "hers and hers" closet. Anyway, the propane tanks don't intrude this area noticeably on the interior near the shoe rack at all. The closet space in the "V" front is tremendous and I will certainly have to remind the wife not to load it to bear to exceed the tongue weight of the TV! I will be eager to see exactly how well it pulls compared to our current TT. I'm guessing not much different and certainly not any better fuel mileage. We chose this trailer for the open floor plan, roomy bathroom and storage rather than any "possibility" of better fuel mileage or otherwise. Hopefully it will suit our needs for years to come.
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bpsims
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Here's an interior space comparison of a V-Nose vs. a square front.
The V-Nose is a Rockwood Windjammer 3008W
The square front is a Rockwood 8315BSS
Both trailers have the exact same exterior length: 34 ft. 1 in.
Is the V-Nose being marketed as a 30 footer? The square front a 31 footer?
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HappyTrails2U2
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bpsims wrote:Here's an interior space comparison of a V-Nose vs. a square front.
The V-Nose is a Rockwood Windjammer 3008W
The square front is a Rockwood 8315BSS
Both trailers have the exact same exterior length: 34 ft. 1 in.
Is the V-Nose being marketed as a 30 footer? The square front a 31 footer?
I'm glad you picked this one on the bottom 'cause that's the one I have the 8315BSS and it's not even close to 34 ft long. The actual box size is 30 ft. You add on the spare tire and the tongue and it's 34' - 1".
The only way to get the exact length is take your tape measure and measure it yourself. The one on top is not the same length as the one on the bottom unless I'm completely blind. If you want the same comparison then extend the one on the bottom to the exact same length that the V nose extends.
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advntrs
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HappyTrails2U2 wrote:advntrs wrote:
Nope, that dog won't hunt.......A 28' VR1 has 33' feet of usable space. Granted, not all of that space is 8' wide, but I have a very roomy 2 sink bathroom where I would normally have an unusable A frame.
Not trying to bust your bubble just trying to make a point. These manufactures play games with their trailer lengths. In most cases they measure their trailers from the rear end of the spare tire all the way to the tip end of the hitch and state that as the length of the trailer. In reality a 34 ft trailer only has 30 linear ft of living space and should be called a 30 ft. trailer but they won't do that because they want people to think they're getting something bigger.
On the V shaped trailers they try to make people think they're getting something for free by advertising a 28 ft. trailer that has 33 ft of living space. You can't put a 33' box on a 28 ft. frame whether it's square or V shaped no matter how resourceful you are.
If you have 33 ft. of living space then you have a 33 ft. trailer and if you think you only paid for 28 ft. of it and got the other 5 ft.for free then I'm afraid that dog is the one that won't hunt.
Keystone did not market the 28' as a 33'. The size of the box is exactly 28'. The (triangular) area over the "A" frame is, indeed, extra room. Did I pay for that? Of course I did. In order to get the same square footage, I would have to purchase at least a "real" 31" TT. By the way, my propane storage on the VR-1 is in the rear of the unit. (Takes a little away from the pass thru, but is workable.)
Keep in mind, that they are not putting a 33' box on a 28' frame. I understand your point however, that people should be aware that they are not getting something for nothing.
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mking wrote:I'm missing something about a box type TT having wasted or unused space? On a V-front TT wouldn't you have the gas bottles in the V?And if so then this would still be on the 3ft A part of the tounge,which is the same as a box type TT.I bet you if you measured the inside sq.feet of a V type TT and compared it to a box type TT the box would have more sq.ft.But as long as your happy with your TT it doesn't matter. My first thought about the V front is it would cut the wind better,but seeing what someone else stated about a 45degree wind that makes alot of sense.
On My VR1 the Propane tanks are at the rear(the batteries also), so I do lose a little storage space back there.
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We picked a Flagstaff 30WFKSS,because we wanted that layout,dont care about S/F,Box size,total length,only (HOPE) it is well built! Youroo!!
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