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Mile High

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Posted: 03/10/10 09:46am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hunter11 wrote:

Our trailer is an 07 model and it came from the factory with the Sidewinder hitch. So they have been out much longer than a year.
Nuff said from me - you guys can have them. You won't catch me with one - ever.

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Mile High wrote:

Hunter11 wrote:

Our trailer is an 07 model and it came from the factory with the Sidewinder hitch. So they have been out much longer than a year.
Nuff said from me - you guys can have them. You won't catch me with one - ever.


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Posted: 03/10/10 12:27pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

http://www.etrailer.com/faq-sidewinder.aspx

I have the Superglide that works perfect. I can see from the above link the sidewinder might be as good or better solution. My only concern would be if the pin was extended to check with the OEM and see if they approve.

While the pivot point may be moved back the load on the axle is still same position over the axle. Any side force (sway) would seem to be moved back some but nothing like a TT. The sidewinder might be no longer than a factory extended pin with no addition leverage on the frame.


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Posted: 03/10/10 12:28pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I love my SG. If I had a sidewinder I might prefer it. Probably either one will do what you want.


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smkettner wrote:

http://www.etrailer.com/faq-sidewinder.aspx

I have the Superglide that works perfect. I can see from the above link the sidewinder might be as good or better solution. My only concern would be if the pin was extended to check with the OEM and see if they approve.

While the pivot point may be moved back the load on the axle is still same position over the axle. Any side force (sway) would seem to be moved back some but nothing like a TT. The sidewinder might be no longer than a factory extended pin with no addition leverage on the frame.

Very good post. You are correct the weight is still placed at the axel, only the pivot point is back.


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glazier wrote:

smkettner wrote:

http://www.etrailer.com/faq-sidewinder.aspx

I have the Superglide that works perfect. I can see from the above link the sidewinder might be as good or better solution. My only concern would be if the pin was extended to check with the OEM and see if they approve.

While the pivot point may be moved back the load on the axle is still same position over the axle. Any side force (sway) would seem to be moved back some but nothing like a TT. The sidewinder might be no longer than a factory extended pin with no addition leverage on the frame.

Very good post. You are correct the weight is still placed at the axel, only the pivot point is back.
But who cares where it is on the truck, its where the load point on the trailer is that causes the stress on the front of the trailer. The above posts are right, the sidewinder is no different than an extended pin box, but an extended pinbox ALSO puts additional stress on the frame.

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Mile High wrote:

glazier wrote:

smkettner wrote:

http://www.etrailer.com/faq-sidewinder.aspx

I have the Superglide that works perfect. I can see from the above link the sidewinder might be as good or better solution. My only concern would be if the pin was extended to check with the OEM and see if they approve.

While the pivot point may be moved back the load on the axle is still same position over the axle. Any side force (sway) would seem to be moved back some but nothing like a TT. The sidewinder might be no longer than a factory extended pin with no addition leverage on the frame.

Very good post. You are correct the weight is still placed at the axel, only the pivot point is back.
But who cares where it is on the truck, its where the load point on the trailer is that causes the stress on the front of the trailer. The above posts are right, the sidewinder is no different than an extended pin box, but an extended pinbox ALSO puts additional stress on the frame.


AND both are factory installed components so one would think that the factory understands the additional stress. A factory installed gen-set increases pin weight and therefore stress on the frame, similiar situation. Meanwhile how many fiver owners add a gen-set or otherwise add weight up front that increases pin weight and as long as it doesn't exceed the truck's RAWR we don't worry about the stress on the fiver frame.


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Posted: 03/10/10 07:07pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

the superglide is a good setup, i used to own a Pullrite hitch made by the same manufactureer as superglide and the quality was impressive.

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Posted: 03/10/10 07:19pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

For me, the SuperGlide is a hitch you will have for many replacement trucks and also replacement trailers. The Sidewinder, may or may not fit a replacement trailer. And I would not want to be limited by the pinpox, in my choice of a replacement trailer. You can move the sidewinder to a new trailer, as long as the pinbox accepts the Sidewinder dimensions you have. Otherwise, you need another Sidewinder. See the pinbox application list on their website.

One other point. If you do not already have a hitch, the combined cost of a hitch and the addition of the Sidewinder, comes very close to the SuperGlide. So SuperGlide cost is not an issue.

Considering all these things and the pivot point thing, the Superglide is the better solution, for me.


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Posted: 03/10/10 08:32pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

the turret should be the only part of a sidewinder that has to be replaced should you trade trailers and it not fit. $325 at etrailer.

if you were to trade up to a heavier trailer, you might have to up the size of the sidewinder but same goes for the hitch.


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