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VE3ESN wrote:PackerBacker wrote:Bumpyroad wrote:why would new additional documents be required. couldn't you just include a statement about multiple trips in the first one?
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That's how it works at the borders around us. One notarized letter stating that the children can cross with the grandparents at any time. The kids need their own passport but no other documents.
What a great idea! We're going to inform our son and daughter-in-law about this. AFAIK, Canadian banks don't notarize documents, but I could be wrong. They could use the lawyer who handled their home purchase.
We use a local notary for anything like that; usually cheaper than a lawyer.
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No, in the US the bank is not a notary, usually it is some employee who is one.
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Personally, I would NEVER include multiple trips on such a document and would only use a time period.
Some would consider this perhaps insensitive, but if anyone is taking my child out of the country, regardless of who they are, I want to have it defined when they will be back. Especially they grandparents.
Not that I have a problem with my parents or my wife's parents, but bad things can happen. Any relationship can develop into a bad relationship. Mental issues can arise, especially with the elderly. Would you really want to have anyone in possession of a document which gives them carte-blanche at all times, with no expiry, to travel with your child?
I could even see, perhaps in the future, where such notarized letters won't even be acceptable for border crossings without a period of travel indicated on them, to protect the child against any possible unanticipated abduction scenario.
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dieharder wrote:Personally, I would NEVER include multiple trips on such a document and would only use a time period.
Some would consider this perhaps insensitive, but if anyone is taking my child out of the country, regardless of who they are, I want to have it defined when they will be back. Especially they grandparents.
Not that I have a problem with my parents or my wife's parents, but bad things can happen. Any relationship can develop into a bad relationship. Mental issues can arise, especially with the elderly. Would you really want to have anyone in possession of a document which gives them carte-blanche at all times, with no expiry, to travel with your child?
I could even see, perhaps in the future, where such notarized letters won't even be acceptable for border crossings without a period of travel indicated on them, to protect the child against any possible unanticipated abduction scenario.
Wow! Didn't expect such an impassioned response. Our son and d.i.l. trust us, and my wife and I are still mentally competent. We're just trying to find the most cost-effective method of notarizing the required document. Our trips to the US with the grandkids would tend to be short; perhaps two weeks at the most, so seeing a notary every time just doesn't make sense, in our humble opinion.
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VE3ESN wrote:dieharder wrote:Personally, I would NEVER include multiple trips on such a document and would only use a time period.
Some would consider this perhaps insensitive, but if anyone is taking my child out of the country, regardless of who they are, I want to have it defined when they will be back. Especially they grandparents.
Not that I have a problem with my parents or my wife's parents, but bad things can happen. Any relationship can develop into a bad relationship. Mental issues can arise, especially with the elderly. Would you really want to have anyone in possession of a document which gives them carte-blanche at all times, with no expiry, to travel with your child?
I could even see, perhaps in the future, where such notarized letters won't even be acceptable for border crossings without a period of travel indicated on them, to protect the child against any possible unanticipated abduction scenario.
Wow! Didn't expect such an impassioned response. Our son and d.i.l. trust us, and my wife and I are still mentally competent. We're just trying to find the most cost-effective method of notarizing the required document. Our trips to the US with the grandkids would tend to be short; perhaps two weeks at the most, so seeing a notary every time just doesn't make sense, in our humble opinion.
I'm not, in any way, saying that you are not competent, and I hope it wasn't taken that way. I just mean that too many things can change after that document has been signed for me to give carte-blanche to travel across the border at all times with my child. As humans, we do lose, to some degree (some more than others), mental competency and the ability to make rational, logical decisions as we age, and relationships that have been great for decades can go sour. Relationships going sour, on their own, can cause people to make serious errors in judgment... like taking a child away without permission at that time. Just because I gave someone permission to travel with my child to the US 5 years ago does not necessarily mean they have permission to do so now. And, quite frankly, the low cost of having a document notarized every time is a price I'm willing to pay for that protection.
As far as the most cost-effective way, I would approach the bank first. If not, just have a look at Notary in the yellow pages - they should be just about everywhere. Most would only charge somewhere in the neighbourhood of $20-$25 to administer the oath and sign/stamp a form. We have one across the street from our office that we send our clients that need a form notarized and he's in that cost range. If you end up with a lawyer, be prepared to open your wallet wider.
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I took my grandson 14 yrs old to ak. from il. in augest 2009. No passport required under 16 yrs. old. We had a letter of authrization from my daughter and son-in-law notarized and birth certificate is required. We had no problems at all. He rode up with me and flew home. Hope this helps.
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Make sure the letter from the parents give you the authority to make medical decisions. One never knows what may happen on the trip, for example a broken arm or a simple fall that need medical attention.
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