mountainkowboy
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This is for the origanal poster, our chassis drives great.....for a box on a truck chassis. As others have stared alot of the driving quirks are the result of the coach builders. I have friends that have a W22 that drives like garbage and others that drive fine. So have your friend drive it in a real world test and see if Damon did it right. Ours is a Monaco (Holiday Rambler) built unit and the balance and weight distribution is excellent. I can drive it with 1 finger in almost all conditions but heavy crosswinds. I have no experience with Damon so I cant help you there.
As for the doom and gloom the jdsr and topflight ALWAYS report when anyone asks about a WH chassis, YES there have been brake issues with the W20-22 chassis'. WH will fix it when they have the parts available, and that should be this year. I havent had any, but the general rule seems to be 6 or more years on the chassis and low mileage on the coach. Alot has to do with area as far a I can tell too. The higher the general humidity of the area the more prone for problems, since the pistons seem to swell by absorbing water. This is just my .02 from what I've read and seen, it is by no means a fact.
Would I buy a WH chassis................without a doubt. The 8.1 and Allison transmission with grade brake combo is AWESOME to drive. My unit is 35.5' and I tow a multitude of toads (see my sig) and average 8 mpg most of the time.
Would I buy a Damon.........I have no opinion and dont know anyone that has.
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mountainkowboy
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FrontRangeRVer wrote:gonzo71 wrote:FrontRangeRVer wrote:Workhorse is losing business so fast now, that Winnebago is not using any Workhorse chassis (including the front diesel) on any of their 2011 lineup.
Workhorse is loosing for more reasons. Workhorse is out of gas engines. And front diesel are not that popular with RV'rs. The Ford Chassis is the ONLY gas chassis currently available.
BTW, I am happy with my WH. Never had a brake issue at all. I never had any problems with my coach other than little waer and tear stuff.
I know all of that....Workhorse had it's head in the sand too long denying brake problems and putting the blame on the consumer....Winnebago is doing good dropping that dog and going with Ford!!!! 
Like Ford hasnt had there share of issues.......... 
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FrontRangeRVer wrote:I know all of that....Workhorse had it's head in the sand too long denying brake problems and putting the blame on the consumer....Winnebago is doing good dropping that dog and going with Ford!!!!
Winnebago or any other OEM is not dropping WH for any other reason other than WH does not have a gas chassis to sell them.
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topflite51
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Why thank you as naming me a doom and gloomer everytime someone asks about a Workhorse chassis. My friends who have them, and who have brake problems will be glad to hear that I am a doom and gloomer for them, somebody has to stand up for them. I would rather be known as a doom and gloomer than someone who is in total denial that there is a problem. People mention Ford has had their share of problems, the only one I am aware of is the cruise control issue, solution was to unplug it until the wiring harness was available. People that owned F53's could still use their MH's without fear, just didn't have the conveinance of using the cruise control. The problem as I see it is that those who have problems with their WH chassis are not receiving ANY help from those who are not. Way to go! That's really sticking up for your fellow RV'ers. Maybe those who are not having any problems should be put at the end of the line when and if the solution is available. I am willing to bet most of you will be at the front of the line, demanding that you be taken care of. I think if you have not had any problems, you should wait until you do, HOW ABOUT THAT. Want to risk your family on it? I bet not. Workhorse has been in denial for several years, and still there are those who defend them. Why? Everytime you take your WH chassis out you are putting your family at risk, and that is a FACT. You can call me any name in the book that you want, but it does not change anything. You think more of your Workhorse chassis, than you do of your family, and in my mind that is SICK.I keep hearing that the parts will be available, first it was early in the year (like January), then it was in May, then August, then September and now I hear November. How about never? It could happen. I would think that those who are not currently having problems should be complaining also, instead of drinking the Workhorse Kool-Aid and denying that there is a problem. Just as my doom and gloom is wearing thin on the Workhorse owners who are in denial, as it is, your denial of a problem is wearing thin on those who have a problem. You really should be standing up for them and screaming instead of posting that you have X number of miles on your chassis and have had NO brake problems. You are simply put aiding Workhorse, and they are not the ones who need the help. Your fellow RV'ers are. GET WITH IT!
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topflite51
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Something for all you Workhorse chassis owners who are in denial:
Bosch sold the vast majority of their brake business a while back to Akebono of Japan. They could decide they cannot afford to provide all those calipers for free and file bankruptcy. Leaving Navistar on the hook. But what a minute, Navistar could allow Workhorse LLC to enter bankruptcy also, leaving Workhorse chassis owners on the hook. It probably won't happen that way, BUT IT COULD. It wouldn't be the first time that NAVISTAR (International Harvester) stiffed their customers.
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FrontRangeRVer
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spamtownr wrote:FrontRangeRVer wrote:I know all of that....Workhorse had it's head in the sand too long denying brake problems and putting the blame on the consumer....Winnebago is doing good dropping that dog and going with Ford!!!!
Winnebago or any other OEM is not dropping WH for any other reason other than WH does not have a gas chassis to sell them.
Winnebago is also dropping the front engine diesel Workhorse Chassis and dropped the Workhorse UFO chassis last year when the 8.1 was readily available and standard in that chassis. I believe we all could guess the REAL reasons behind this. 
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FrontRangeRVer
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mountainkowboy wrote:
Like Ford hasnt had there share of issues..........
At least Ford owned up to them and didn't blame the customer like Workhorse did and is still doing.
Workhorse has nobody to blame except themselves for this PR campaign.
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mountainkowboy wrote:
As for the doom and gloom the jdsr and topflight ALWAYS report when anyone asks about a WH chassis, YES there have been brake issues with the W20-22 chassis'. WH will fix it when they have the parts available, and that should be this year.
Mountainkowboy, this is a 9 month old thread, and most likely the OP has made his mind up by now as to let his friend know if he should buy a Damon product on a Workhorse Chassis.
For the rest of us Workhorse owners that have been following the Workhorse brake problems for many years, we have all been told time and time again when the "recall" will happen. I'm glad that jdsr and others have been involved in notifying the NHTSA and getting the ball rolling on this, as we all know that WORKHORSE continued to deny any blame for many years before you became aware of this situation.
I have a sticky in the motorhome section on RVForum.net about the Workhorse Brake Resource Center and the brake information, so come join us here and there for accurate information, and not cheerleading as the case is with some at irv2.
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J-Rooster
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Jon, Winnebago has a 37' Coach, Adventurer on a W-22 Chassis with the 8.1 Chevy engine. I have a 2004 Winnebago 35-U with W-22 and it will stop on a dime! John
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mountainkowboy
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FrontRangeRVer wrote:mountainkowboy wrote:
As for the doom and gloom the jdsr and topflight ALWAYS report when anyone asks about a WH chassis, YES there have been brake issues with the W20-22 chassis'. WH will fix it when they have the parts available, and that should be this year.
Mountainkowboy, this is a 9 month old thread, and most likely the OP has made his mind up by now as to let his friend know if he should buy a Damon product on a Workhorse Chassis.
I have a sticky in the motorhome section on RVForum.net about the Workhorse Brake Resource Center and the brake information, so come join us here and there for accurate information, and not cheerleading as the case is with some at irv2.
No cheer leading hear, I've had no issues with my WH chassis, of any kind. My brakes work fine and always have, and my coach drives fine without the so called add-ons that some tought HAVE to be added. But then I drive it like a truck not a car. When in heavy taffic I hang back and cruise using very little brake, just like I do when driving the "trucks" at work. It weighs 22,000 pounds without towing my car, getting that much weight to stop requires ALOT of energy that gets turned into heat. Do it to many times without adequate time to let the system cool, and it will cause BIG problems. I live in the mountains and on ANY given day I can go down the hill and there will be cars and trucks at the bottom with smoking brake because the DRIVER DOES NOT NO HOW TO DRIVE THER VEHICLE IN THAT SITUATION. I'm not saying that there isnt a problem, cause there is and I'll get my coach fixed when they tell me I can. If my coach locks a brake up I'll replace ALL of the calipers and be done with if for awhile, cause the caliper pistons have swollen due to water absorption. I'm not gunna piss and moan about it and try to tell everyone not to buy there chassis because there C/S is crappy. These are expensive toys that we play with and its expensive to fix them when they break. I'm sorry that some have had problems and that it cost them alot of money to fix them when they broke. The brake problem is not new, I was aware of it when I bought the coach. I did my homework.
The manufactures will try to get away with whatever they can.....Toyota, Ford, GM, Nissan, MBZ, Honda, there all a bunch of crooks and they all have problems that they will not admit to..........get over it. The feds got involved and made them find the problem and come up with a fix, and thats where we are at right now. Do you REALLY think that any of them are going to use the best product available for the chassis? NO, there gunna use the cheapest thing that works so that they can make the most money on it at the price point that we the customers demand.
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