campingpenguin
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my buddy and i have the same units, i noticed i was loosing air, about 10lbs/week, china tires also so replaced them with goodyear wrangler rts, these are great tires,went 1 size bigger, feel safe with this big unit!!! travelling with 2 kids and a puppy, and a wife!!!!
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PaulandTammy
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kakampers wrote:The only ST tire worth anything today is the Goodyear G614...However, if Michelin made a G rated tire they'd be on my Bighorn faster than you could spit!!!
The XPS Rib is the best tire we've ever used on a trailer, and we've never had anything other than Michelin on our trucks and have never had so much as a flat tire, much less a blowout!
Isn't the Goodyear G614 is a LT? It only comes in one size LT235/85R16
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Gale Hawkins
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Rough2000 the tire engineer actually stated 20% reserve or not to load past 80% was my wording. You may be correct about the statements made in the OP. 
Like an engine it seems tires should not be run at the red line.
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ol Bombero-JC
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jpjulian wrote:For those who have installed LT truck tires on their trailers, those tires are not designed for the stresses that tandem axle trailers place on the tires. You may have not had troubles but I am bothered the dealer would not only sell but install tires that are clearly beyond their design limitations. I've seen what can happen when a tire truely blows and takes out body parts and components on big-rig semis and it aint pretty. The first time was about 1963 when the station wagon my mother was driving was passing a lumber truck. Inside tire on the drive tandem blew which took out the outside tire which caused the load to shift and fall onto our car. One of my sisters landed in intensive care. The last time was a couple summers ago and I was on a trarric stop under a bridge. A passing dump truck had a blowout on the left stear axle tire. Sounded like a bomb went off. It took off the front fender and brake chamber. No, these instances have nothing to do with LT tires on RV's. Just examples of how much damage can occur. Fortunately we have never had a flat or blowout on any of our RV's and our current 5th wheel happens to have Chinese made tires. Yes, I have some concerns about them but as I keep an eye out for cold tire temps and axle weights, am not too concerned. Any sign of trouble and they are gone the way of the wooly mammoth. Light truck tires are for light trucks, trailer tires are for trailers and never the twain shall mix. My .02.
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Joe - I won't even preface the following statement with "IMO" !!
The above is flat WRONG in re: ST vs LT tires.
Many trlr mfgrs are now equipping their products with LT tires.
ST tires used to be OK for the product (trailers) that they were intended for - but that's simply no longer the case.
Why? Most/all are mfg in China.
And - long before the China bombs, I used LT tires with NEVER any
problem. (Same as your ST experience).
I also used USA mfg GY Marathons (on TTs) with NEVER a problem.
Unfortunately, putting "China" into the equation changed everything -
to the detriment of trailer owners.
(Yes - Taiwan mfg Maxxis may be the exception.)
As to the GY G614 and 114 tires - research carefully. IF GY has returned the mfgr of the 614 to the USA - that's a good thing.
Check date codes -as well as country code- carefully!
Many owners have swapped to 17.5 tires/rims to solve (and get away from) the very limited choice of heavy-duty 16" tires.
Back to Joe - you *ARE* fortunate to never have had a tire problem.
Maybe it's skill - maybe luck.
If you search tire "problems" on the forum, you will find lots and
lots (needs about 4 more "LOTS") of others who did everything right, but their "luck" wasn't quite so good! (Or, "luck" ran out!)
China and "Murphy" got 'em!
Yes - proper inflation and speed and inspection are very important.
Unfortunately, there are lots of folks who played by the "rules" and lost.
Lastly - when it comes to GY - and the broken record about how the owners don't "maintain" correctly, I suggest reading this informative article:
Google: "Goodyear Kept Tire Problems Quiet"
It's not about trailers - but you will find a common thread (no pun) there.
Roll on!
JC
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edited 03/30/09 01:15pm by ol Bombero-JC *
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wla7
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ckwizard777 wrote:I think there are two reasons some people have tire problems.
One is that most of the ST tires are speed rated at 65 MPH and the other is that some people do not weigh their set ups and overload the tires.
I agree with this statement from Kodiak5er.
I was on my home from work last friday and I observed 2-fivers and 1-TT keeping up just fine with the 70-75 MPH traffic on RT1 southbound.
The tire blow-out problems with Cedar Creek is well documented on the internet and the problem does not relate to speed, overloading, or underinflation. Unfortunately, I have first hand experience with this problem. Some CC units came through with "Hi-Run, Load Range G, LT 235/R16" tires, manufactured in China. It is not a question of "if they will blow-out", it is more a question of when. Mine blew at about 5,000 miles. All 5 tires were replaced with Goodyear, Load Range G, LT 235/85R16, which are manufactured in the US, and, I believe, primarily for RVs. I have put over 7,000 miles on these tires without one problem. My tires are properly inflated, I travel at a reasonable speed (under 70 mph), and I have Pressure Pro tire monitors.
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johnsgn
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Thanks for all of the replies. Interesting views. The "Unloaded Vehicle Weight" of my Cedar Creek Silverback 35L4QB is 11549 lbs.. The "Axle Dry Weight" is 9699 lbs..
John
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Chris
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So the other day we looked at Cardinals in Mesa, Az. Most had GY G614, only saw one with maypops. Load Star's or Load Max or some other chinese time bomb.
Cardinal and CC are both Forest River products. Maybe CC is still clearing old inventory.
I repeat, do not take delivery of a new trailer with cheap tires.
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kakampers
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PaulandTammy wrote:kakampers wrote:The only ST tire worth anything today is the Goodyear G614...However, if Michelin made a G rated tire they'd be on my Bighorn faster than you could spit!!!
The XPS Rib is the best tire we've ever used on a trailer, and we've never had anything other than Michelin on our trucks and have never had so much as a flat tire, much less a blowout!
Isn't the Goodyear G614 is a LT? It only comes in one size LT235/85R16
Here is the link to Goodyear Goodyear G614 RST...as you can see it is made especially for trailer applications.
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teamroper60
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kakampers wrote:Here is the link to Goodyear Goodyear G614 RST...as you can see it is made especially for trailer applications.
Here is another link to the same tire..... In both of those links, the size is stated as an LT235/85/16, so as you can see, it is an LT tire.
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Chris
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Both of those links state trailer use. Someone with them could look. I will bet they say for trailer use only on the sidewall. Chris
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