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need help
Hi thanks all for the help with info re. Our toyota tundra. We have been to the boston show are on the way to the providence show and have been to dealers. Are there any brands you would NOT recommend. We are prepared to buy, done homework but I am curios. What do you love in the 30foot 7000 lb range?
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jobythebay
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03/02/12 09:14am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
Assuming you have a double cab 4x4 your MAX payload is between 1415lbs and 1655lbs. Your hitch weight, as others have said, will be well north of 1000 lbs. Plus you are jumping up 9 feet in length to a 34 footer. I dont know who has been telling you "no problem" about towing that with your Tundra but I really think your truck will me maxed out by the payload alone, without loading a single thing in the bed of the truck.
I would look at the some of the ultralight lines and find a similar floorplan that weighs less.
Heres one: http://www.keystone-passport.com/index.php?page=floorplans&coast=east&model=3100RK
weights are much better suited for your truck
OK thanks, the trailer is 30feet. It is http://www.rvwholesalers.com/design/Puma/Puma.php?floorplan=30RKSS
The Puma 30 RKSS.
Do you know the footage of the keystone link you gave me? Thank you and also there is one that is a little smaller.
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jobythebay
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02/06/12 11:33am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
Like you, I fell in love with the Puma 30RKSS and agree it is an awesome trailer. I bought a 2012 model last fall, and have enjoyed camping tremendously in that trailer. The rear kitchen gives you so much room, and tons of cabinet space. The only issue I've had with mine so far, is the shower enclosure had to be adjusted, as water leaked between it and the cabinet. And the fold out bed had to be adjusted, as it wouldn't fold out correctly. Other than that it's been a wonderful purchase.
I will say that I don't tow mine on a regular basis, it's set up on a permanent spot. However, I did pull it once with a 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad w/ 5.7 hemi. I felt I needed more truck, as the first minimal incline seemed to slow it down 10-15 MPH. I can't imagine pulling it through the mountains with my Ram. I'm not the weight police, and I probably was upping my limits, but it pulled fine. If I was pulling it all the time, I'd probably have buyers remorse due to weight, or have a new bigger truck. Good luck in your decision.
Thanks, everyone. I am looking at the Keystone now. Perhaps there weren't any or they were all BH TT, which we never look at.
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jobythebay
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02/06/12 10:01am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
Assuming you have a double cab 4x4 your MAX payload is between 1415lbs and 1655lbs. Your hitch weight, as others have said, will be well north of 1000 lbs. Plus you are jumping up 9 feet in length to a 34 footer. I dont know who has been telling you "no problem" about towing that with your Tundra but I really think your truck will me maxed out by the payload alone, without loading a single thing in the bed of the truck.
I would look at the some of the ultralight lines and find a similar floorplan that weighs less.
Heres one: http://www.keystone-passport.com/index.php?page=floorplans&coast=east&model=3100RK
weights are much better suited for your truck
OK thanks, the trailer is 30feet. It is http://www.rvwholesalers.com/design/Puma/Puma.php?floorplan=30RKSS
The Puma 30 RKSS.
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jobythebay
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02/06/12 09:45am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
IMHO: Sounds like way too much trailer for your Tundra. Very surprised to hear folks recommend it considering your tongue weight alone, over 1400# (@ 13% of GVWR), will exceed your trucks payload/GVWR. Yes, it will pull it but won't be particularly fun or safe. Dry hitch weighs are a joke, never saw one yet that came close to being accurate. Sounds like a job for 3/4 ton to me. As always, opinions and YMMV. Good Luck! :C
I found this:
classification of hitch. NOTE: The Tundra’s tow package options are varied. Most 5.7 Tundras come with a class IV/V hitch, but there are some reports of these trucks only having a class III. There are also reports of dealers adding class III hitches after market. Before you tow, take a moment to inspect your hitch..
Class I
2,000 lbs
Class II
3,500 lbs
Class III
5,000 lbs
Class IV
10,000 lbs
Class V
10,000+ lbs
The most popular class of hitch, the Class IV, will accommodate most people’s hauling needs. In the event you have a load larger than 10,000 lbs, or if your hitch is not rated for your load’s weight, it is extremely important that you either adjust your trailer’s weight or upgrade hitches to avoid damaging your truck or losing your trailer on the road.
I remember going through this when we had a Ford 150 truck I think. We had a 21' tt at the time. Then we bought a Toyota Four Runner and I came here to see how much we could pull. Some people were pulling 29' trailers with it. We bought a 25' TT. Now we are pulling that with the Tundra and want to upgrade and no one can really know what to say. At the camping show I was stopping random people (rather than sales people) who all said no problem...
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jobythebay
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02/06/12 09:20am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
We have same Tundra 08. Our Holiday Rambler is about 6400# unloaded. We seem to carry a fair amount of stuff (some month long trips). As Skip said, mtns will be slower but seems
you'd be OK with proper WDHitch. Overall, we like our combo & have no towing issues. Have not towed in Rockies but do tow in Appalachians.
Does your tundra have the tow pkg?
and yes, our truck has a tow package.
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jobythebay
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02/06/12 08:12am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
How many people will you be carrying? Payload might be the problem. I too had a Tundra and I was at payload when I hooked the camper up and then added all 4 or us plus the 2 dogs. My payload was 1300 lbs. 700lbs tongue wt. and 600 us weight. My tt weight is around 7000lbs full thus 700-750lb tongue weight.
You have the truck and the power but payload will be tricky. That is what I have learned.
Hi we have two adults and a Pomeranian. Not sure what else counts - such as 2 tvs...etc.
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jobythebay
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02/06/12 08:10am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
What puma trailer? Do you know how much you will be loading into it? If not then you might want to go by the puma's GVWR. What is the tongue weight? Remember that the dry tongue weight will not be your final tongue weight. Load the tundra up as you would for camping and go weigh it. This will show you how much payload you have left for adding in the tongue weight of the puma. If it is still below all of your weight ratings then you should be fine. Just remember you can easily have enough truck to pull the trailer but the real trick is to have enough truck to stop the trailer.
Hi It is the 30-RKSS
The specs are:
hitch dry weight 977
Dry Axle weight 5977
Total dry weight 6954
Carrying capacity 3733
GVWR 11, 137
I have no idea what any of this means.
:o
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jobythebay
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02/06/12 08:08am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
We have same Tundra 08. Our Holiday Rambler is about 6400# unloaded. We seem to carry a fair amount of stuff (some month long trips). As Skip said, mtns will be slower but seems
you'd be OK with proper WDHitch. Overall, we like our combo & have no towing issues. Have not towed in Rockies but do tow in Appalachians.
Does your tundra have the tow pkg?
Yes it does. I am printing out all the responses because I really want this TT. I love the Sunline's layout but with no slideout, it gets smaller every year we get older. :E Thank you
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jobythebay
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02/06/12 08:04am |
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RE: Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
I don't see any difficulty. I towed heavier with my old F150 5.4 which has a LOT less power than your Tundra. You will get the NORMAL power loss associated with high altitude but can't imagine you'd have any problems. The place that is most COMMON to have problems for inexperienced mountain drivers is going down mountain grades not pulling up them. Just use your transmission to control your speed and when you DO need to use the brakes hit them firmly and slow down quickly then get back OFF of the brakes again so they don't overheat. About the worst thing you can do is lightly ride your brakes all the way down. Luckily with the disc brakes in use today you don't get the brake fade but you certainly CAN warp your rotors causing a fluttering feeling brake pedal.
If you don't feel comfortable on the two lanes, stay on the Interstate and it's just like interstate driving anywhere else. Probably would be a rare occasion that you'd even NEED to use your brakes on the Interstate.
Good luck and have a good trip / Skip
Thank you so much! I love this forum. I wish I knew more so I could help others.
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jobythebay
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02/05/12 02:35pm |
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RE: Leaving food in stored RV
Hi, I wouldn't leave food. We leave towels and pots, etc. but I think the food is just an attraction for something waiting to happen.
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jobythebay
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02/05/12 02:19pm |
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Question about towing and Puma/Tundra
Hi all, you've helped me in the past so here goes. We bought a 2006 Sunline Solaris and love it. It is 25 feet. We have a Toyota Tundra, V8, 2009, 5.7 liters. It is said to pull 10,000 pounds. We went to the camping show and fell in love with the Puma 30-RKSS. Person after person told us that we would have no problem pulling it up the Rockies. We've been cross country twice with two different TT but have never been to the Rockies. We didn't have the Tundra in 2007.
So my questions are simple:
1. Thoughts about towing this Puma with the Tundra, which weighs 7,000 lbs empty up mountain.
2. The Puma itself.
Thanks!! Jo
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jobythebay
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02/05/12 02:16pm |
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RE: What to see and do in Asheville, NC?
We love Ashville and the entire area. Downtown you will find a "scavenger hunt" that will take you to the many cute sculptures, etc. and will give you a chance to see the city. We've been there twice. Love eating at laughing seed http://www.epinions.com/review/Laughing_Seed_Cafe/content_243353947780
Grandfather Mountain, as was said, is great. If you hike, it's wonderful but even if you don't you'll have fun. Only problem is that this is private so it costs money to hike. You'll find amazing beauty if you do any driving along Skyline Drive.
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jobythebay
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02/05/12 02:05pm |
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