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RE: what lowers value more, years or miles?
Use it, enjoy it, don't fret about the miles. The dealer is going to give you wholesale or, typically, less regardless. Above average miles means a few hundred bucks less not thousands. As for condition, when I traded my fiver, they did not even look at it. Told me to bring it on pick up day and showed me where to drop it.
If I were you I would be looking at the cost per mile and feeling pretty good. Most of us pay thousands of bucks and the thing just sits unused and depreciating far more than we would like.
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Ponderosa
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02/07/12 08:07am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Blue Ox Aladdin v. Aventa to tow CR-V
I have the Aventa, but would prefer something lighter. Too cheap to pay for it though.
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Ponderosa
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02/04/12 12:46pm |
Dinghy Towing
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RE: Has anyone down sized from a 5er to a Class C?
Don't be a chicken! Women can pull a fiver just as well as any man can. They are just afraid to try things. My wife pulled ours while we had it. She backs a darn sight better than I do because she doesn't let her ego and image get in the way while backing. Most spaces are pull through anyway. There is no question that getting around in a C is easier, but you must have loved that fiver to buy it. Don't compromise when you really can learn to drive it with a lot less effort than going out and trading it will be. And when you get settled in a park, the tow vehicle beats taking the C sight-seeing/shopping etc for you.
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Ponderosa
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01/29/12 07:42am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Buying Tires In Phoenix
For RV inspection/service I highly recommend RV Master Techs in Goodyear.
RV Master Techs
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Ponderosa
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12/13/11 08:06am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Coachmen 28QB Freelander
I have 27QB which, I believe, is for all practical purposes the same unit with a different designation for the rental market (mine is a former rental). I have a Ford so will leave that alone, but as for the TV, the MH is prewired for a bedroom TV. There is a 120v outlet, and a cable connection in the BR on the cabinet at the foot of the bed. There is a piece of wood in the cabinet framing that can accept the weight of a smaller TV mount. There is no 12v outlet, though.
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Ponderosa
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11/21/11 09:01am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Would You Buy a Rental Class C RV!?
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Ponderosa
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11/17/11 07:11am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Would You Buy a Rental Class C RV!?
I have been buying rental returns on cars for years and recently did the same on motorhomes. Every one has been in mint condition and never given us trouble. My new rental RV had only 20K on it and is still in factory warranty period, though. We also had a 30 day from the dealer on the RV stuff but did not use it. We went rental on the RV because they are immaculately maintained both cosmetically and mechanically. How many private owners wash their units inside and out every week or two? You know scheduled maintenance was done and things were fixed that needed fixing - professionally. The unit I have looks like it just came off the showroom floor and runs and works like it too.
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Ponderosa
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11/17/11 07:06am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: We are Proud Owners
Congrats. That is one cool=looking rig!
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Ponderosa
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11/07/11 07:42am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Renting an RV in Alaska query
On the places to go. There is an in town public campground in Fairbanks right next to Fred Mayer. Fred Mayer there is HUGE. It is a nice CG and a nice place to stop and resupply. It's popular, too. We were there on Memorial Day with no reservations, but I think we got lucky as it seemed to be full otherwise. The private CGs in AK are for the most part pretty bad and pretty expensive. But, the little forest service ones are excellent and cheap, but no hookups. In late May/June we had a few of them almost to ourselves. There are gravel pits everywhere too. We spent a couple nights in those along Richardson Hwy. We ended up spending less on CGs than planned.
Also, no 3G cell phone for Verizon. You can call and get text most places, though.
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Ponderosa
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11/01/11 03:17pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Renting an RV in Alaska query
Great Alaskan x3. Everything about them was perfectly run. New, low mileage rentals in showroom condition. Rented a 25 footer this summer for three weeks. No hidden charges, no shenanigans when you turn it in. They have really attractive rates if you can go before June. We paid around 80 per day unlimited mileage. We were so thrilled with the trip and the unit that we bought our own C when we got back.
They won't let you take them on gravel roads with a couple exceptions so don't plan going to the Arctic Circle or Nome with it. Most everything you will want to get to is paved, though.
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Ponderosa
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10/31/11 01:30pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Did you rent before you bought?
We moved from a truck camper to a C this year. We rented a 25 footer for 3 weeks in Alaska. We did not plan on moving to the C but found the C so much nicer to get around in than the camper. We also learned that 25, while better than the camper was too darn small (lack of a couch and slide was the main thing). So when we bought our priorities were couch AND dinette AND slide AND bed in the back in the shortest possible unit. The rental in Alaska would have been fine all on its own, but we learned a lot about how we like to camp and travel from that and it helped in our decision.
Now if the darned C just got the mileage I got with a camper.
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Ponderosa
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10/28/11 09:34am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Quality of tires
Is there an all steel all terrain tire that is good? I want to use my C on gravel forest roads but I am afraid of flats. I had a 31 footer several years ago that got two flats from gravel puncturing the tread on the same trip so I am leery of going very far down a gravel road. I took my truck camper everywhere with LTX tires with never a problem, and that is what is on the MH. Still I wonder if an AT, all steel, is better.
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Ponderosa
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10/27/11 05:17pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: from Truck Camper to Class C
We have a rear camera with mic which means I can see the whole boat behind MH plus see/hear DW as she guides me back on ramp or hitching up trailer.That is a very good idea. I bought one, but its been too darn hot to put it in yet!
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Ponderosa
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10/20/11 12:05pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: from Truck Camper to Class C
I don't tow a boat but I have a front hitch on my RV for maneuvering my trailer. Makes life very easy.
A previous owner installed the one on mine. I love it. I would worry about the "tail" of the class C. Depending on length it may extend a LONG way past the rear axle. Depending on the steepness of the launch ramp this may cause problems backing in (if you don't do the front receiver thing). I don't want to submerge the rear of the C at all. (The photo above has it about right IMHO.) I can think of three things that will help with this issue:
1) A shorter rig
2) The longest trailer tongue you can find.
3) Rollers on the trailer. I have never floated a boat on or off a trailer. I get the trailer close then use the rollers and winch to launch or retrieve. I try not to submerge the electrics or wheel hubs but that depends on the ramp.Of course this only works with smaller boats. My 20' fiberglass cuddy was pushing it with a tipping style trailer.I noticed while shopping for mine that the length did not translate to a longer overhang by much. Shorter Cs had shorter wheelbases and the wheelbases increased with increasing length leaving the overhang roughly the same. What did matter is some of them have no rake at the end so the long tail is only a couple of inches from the ground. The other thing that makes length harder to handle is that to clear an object for a turn requires that you go further past it to clear the longer wheelbase. I notice this most in gas stations. Sometimes there is barely enough room to get out.
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Ponderosa
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10/20/11 12:04pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: from Truck Camper to Class C
I took the plunge from a TC to a Class C earlier this year. I have a pontoon as well. Pulling it is no problem at all. I always feel like it is going to fall over on the ramp, but then I did with my TC as well. Backing down the ramp with the boat is easy because I can see it in the mirrors.
We also have an aluminum fishing boat and that is a bear with the C as I can't see it. It gets crooked on the ramp before it shows in the mirrors making for some real cussing, if you know what I mean.
The other thing is that it is a PITA if you go somewhere where you can't dock or beach the boat and have to go fetch it. You have to break camp, go get the boat, back into the campsite, unhook etc. It was a lot easier with the TC off the truck.
The TC just got too tight with my kids getting big/wanting to bring friends. When it's Ma and me again, it's back to the TC = the most versatile RV there is.
Other C negatives vs TC: It sucks gas. I get about 50% fewer mpg that my Dodge diesel with TC.
Pluses: The getting there is much improved. Drive, stop, get something to eat, watch TV, all without opening a door! Also, don't have to load the thing in the bed, and it hold a whole lot more stuff.
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Ponderosa
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10/20/11 09:32am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Length Limits
You can make a right turn on a residential street and stay in the lane with my 28 so I can't imagine that maneuvering in a CG would be a huge problem A 27 or so footer c has a 190 or so wheelbase which ain't much more than a crew pickup truck. The swing out in the rear is something to watch though. That is the worst part of the C configuration for getting around. It is all too easy to whack a tree or a gas pump!
BTW, I have lived and traveled in AZ for decades and have yet to see a road marked so that you could not drive a 28 foot (or any size) RV on it. I have seen campgrounds that recommend certain sizes but never have been measured or even asked. Usually they are referring to the length of a trailer that will fit and a 27 C will go in a "25" foot spot with ease. I don't doubt there are some tight spots where you'd have to be careful. But, if you go to CGs around the west, you see monster fifth wheels shoe horned into the tiniest spots! If they can do it, so can you.
Another thing to keep in mind is that in the west you do not need to go to crowded campgrounds. Dispersed camping is allowed on almost all public land in AZ and western states. So you can camp anywhere you feel like subject to a few restrictions (like not next to a stock water tank, etc). There are some definite advantages to shorter Cs if this is your mode of camping. I have found 28 to be the upper limit for getting much off the pavement. 24 would be better and a truck camper would be best. Then again, I can't tell you how many times I have banged down a dirt road in 4wd only to find a Class A or a huge fifth wheel at the end of it.
Since you are not familiar with the dispersed sites, you should bring a toad behind you. You park just off the pavement, and then drive your toad down the forest road checking for spots you can get to (look up, too) and out of. If you find one, you drive the C to it and set up. That's how you camp out this way!
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Ponderosa
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10/20/11 08:36am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Length Limits
I came from a truck camper and I was really concerned about the length of a C. I have found ours at 28 feet is not a issue anywhere except parking. We don't stay in campgrounds in AZ preferring the dispersed sites. In other areas, I have yet to find anything where 28 is too long. Getting off the pavement may be different. I am afraid to take my C on gravel or dirt roads (I think the tires are going to be punctured) though the length would probably be OK. 24 would be a lot better for that, I suppose, but under 28-ish we found you begin to sacrifice comfort, sleeping arrangements and so on too much for our tastes.
One thing I would advise is to get one where the back is tapered up rather than straight out behind the wheels. I had a Class C 31 years ago with the straight tail and it banged and dragged on the slightest dip.
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Ponderosa
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10/19/11 09:02pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: electrical
I'm with the vibration crowd. Actually, I question the repair shop's opinion on the cause of failure. I don't see how an ungrounded circuit could cause the board to fail. It's DC. There is a circuit or there is not. Taking the ground off is like unplugging it electrically. It had to be grounded in the first place or it would never have worked at all. Maybe if the contact were intermittent = the board kept cycling on/off with a loose connection, it could fail the board. But in that case the cause was more likely age and vibration than anything the manufacturer did.
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Ponderosa
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10/19/11 08:33am |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Eternabond Tape
OK, couple questions:
1. I have 4 inch tape. Is this the right size?
2. When you put it on, you "glue" it to the rubber side of the seam. Do you then lap it over the metal part of the seam and on to the filon. Does that look ok?
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Ponderosa
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10/16/11 03:48pm |
Class C Motorhomes
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RE: Generator question
"Can someone explain to me why the generator should be running under a load? I understand why it should run at least once a month (I just replaced a carb. and don't want to do that again)."
Because it is both a motor and a generator. The generators in RVs use carbon slip rings and brushes to transfer current from the stationary to rotating parts of the generator. These tend to get gunked up under light load operation and can get so bad (insulate) that the generator will not work. They also collect dust and such sitting around or driving down the road. To keep them clean, you really need to run better than 50% load for a few hours at a time. More is better, but even frequent use at high loads for a half hour or so is better than nothing.
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Ponderosa
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10/15/11 09:44am |
Class C Motorhomes
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