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RE: Pet Business - Venting
When I first got my trailer I was staying at a local place and walked across someone's site. I had no idea that this was objectionable, as odd as that sounds now. Someone said something to me, and I never did it again. I realize that to you it seems like just basic common sense, but not everyone automatically understands this.
Sometimes a simple "Excuse me, this is not the dog walk area, this is our site." might be in order.
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02/10/12 01:16am |
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RE: Duke is bored
Darn weather? Send it here!
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02/09/12 07:20pm |
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RE: This is very strange.
Raw carrots are hard to digest and frequently come out in about the same condition they went in if fed to a dog. :) Most dogs chew them poorly because dogs aren't really designed to "chew" food as we are. Short digestive tracts meant to handle meat and bone (prey) do not efficiently break down tough vegetable matter. So they aren't getting all the sugar in them, and certainly aren't getting it quickly.
Cooked carrots would be a different thing. Feeding raw carrots to, say, a rabbit is also a different thing and when I went to the "bunny ranch" I learned that carrots are to be given in limited qunatities, because they do break down in a rabbit's gut due to the different flora, and that can release too much sugar and throw the flora balance off.
Ah, pasture discussions... reminds me of my time in Northa Dakoota, where the beef is grass fed and the venison is grain fed.
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02/09/12 11:52am |
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RE: My sweet Ziggy has cancer
Sometimes it seems so hard...
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02/08/12 10:37pm |
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RE: Meet Duncan
Beautiful on so many levels....
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02/08/12 10:33pm |
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RE: Pet treats causing deaths
When I saw this thing about China, I stopped buying the chicken strips back when Baby was around.
Prsently they get two stuffs (Jumbone and Hill's Hypo-Allergenic Biscuits) that's made by our neighbors in Canada, Ehy!
Pops
PS All I'm wait'in on is to see if this ALL PROTEIN diet works on Harlee!
PPS I wish I could get Harlee n' Calvin to eat vegetable treats! Cause they share one (x2) pack of medium size Jumbone at $3.50 once a day. And the bag of Hill's Hypo-Allergenic treats is $7.50 a bag!
After which you gotta figure in that they eat (x1) large tray of boneless/skinless chicken breast per week (usually the $15.00 - $16.00 dollar size. Which by the way is brough in from China. But I do boild the heck out of'um before I freeze it).
And now they're on different types of Royal Canin caned Dog Food!
Then to top it off, the two ask if I could make them "Eggs Benedict with a side of dollar size pancakes with beef or chicken gravy" on Sundays for a little variety!
I'm beginning to think that some'tuns definately work here!
Those jumbones are HUGE....... that's a lot of extra calories per day, and a LOT of chicken per week, on top of kibble.
Harlee could lose a few punds, but both their weights a pretty much stable with their present intake. How do I know about their weight? Well we've been to the vet's quite a lot since July! ... LOL
Calvin however, works it off since we walk a good 5 plus miles a night since arriving to this new property. Been good for me as well!
Since Harlee had her pancreas problem, Jumbone was the only treat I could find with a low fat content (crude fat 1%). It's unreal the fat content in these treats! And again, both dogs will NOT eat veggies! No Way No How! Wish they did though, would save me a ton of cash!
I can get your dogs eating green beans. It's the enhanced green bean diet. You go to the store and get a smoked ham hock and a five pound bag of frozen green beans. Put it in the slow cooker and add as many green beans as will fit (could use a big pot also) then some water. Set to cook on high for 6 hours and go to bed. (Um, on low and cook while you're awake if you use a regular pot.) In the morning, voila! Ham flavored but almost fat free. You might want to add some salt when you eat yours, but not for the dogs.
Good and good for ya!
Good and good for you!
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02/08/12 12:43am |
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RE: This is very strange.
Basically, carbohydrates turn into sugar and enter the blood as sugar at different rates, depending on the specific type of food they come from. So if you eat a tablespoon of pure sugar, it affects you differently than a sweet potato. This can affect a lot of different things, particularly in life-forms that have issues affected by blood sugar levels or have a metabolic problem that prevents their bodies from processing carbohydrates correctly.
Doug's just trying to make us study, as if some of us didn't have six dogs, five cats, and two rabbits to deal with. :E I think perhaps we could stick with dogs, since that's the type of food this is all about.
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02/07/12 10:50pm |
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RE: Pet treats causing deaths
When I saw this thing about China, I stopped buying the chicken strips back when Baby was around.
Prsently they get two stuffs (Jumbone and Hill's Hypo-Allergenic Biscuits) that's made by our neighbors in Canada, Ehy!
Pops
PS All I'm wait'in on is to see if this ALL PROTEIN diet works on Harlee!
PPS I wish I could get Harlee n' Calvin to eat vegetable treats! Cause they share one (x2) pack of medium size Jumbone at $3.50 once a day. And the bag of Hill's Hypo-Allergenic treats is $7.50 a bag!
After which you gotta figure in that they eat (x1) large tray of boneless/skinless chicken breast per week (usually the $15.00 - $16.00 dollar size. Which by the way is brough in from China. But I do boild the heck out of'um before I freeze it).
And now they're on different types of Royal Canin caned Dog Food!
Then to top it off, the two ask if I could make them "Eggs Benedict with a side of dollar size pancakes with beef or chicken gravy" on Sundays for a little variety!
I'm beginning to think that some'tuns definately work here!
Those jumbones are HUGE....... that's a lot of extra calories per day, and a LOT of chicken per week, on top of kibble.
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02/07/12 08:30pm |
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RE: Happy Dance....finally
:B :B :B
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02/07/12 06:31pm |
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RE: Pet treats causing deaths
How many times does this have to happen before people stop buying this******and feeding it to their dogs? If you want to give your dog treats between meals, go get some skinless boneless chicken breasts OR thighs, boil them up, and chop them into bits. Spread them out while they freeze and shake periodically and you'll end up with a bag full of frozen bits of chicken that you can give out as treats. They thaw in a minute and the dogs will eat them frozen anyway.
Give them a carrot.......crunchy, sweet and good for them
That works, too, for a lot of dogs. There are a lot of ways to give your dog a healthy, tasty treat without risking poisoning or salmonella from something made in China.
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02/07/12 02:55pm |
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RE: Would one day make a difference ?
Too large a crate can confuse the pup, as it leaves room to potty in one end and sleep in the other. So for a while you might want to bring in one of the smaller ones, or block off part of the bigger one.
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02/07/12 02:00pm |
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RE: Pet treats causing deaths
How many times does this have to happen before people stop buying this******and feeding it to their dogs? If you want to give your dog treats between meals, go get some skinless boneless chicken breasts OR thighs, boil them up, and chop them into bits. Spread them out while they freeze and shake periodically and you'll end up with a bag full of frozen bits of chicken that you can give out as treats. They thaw in a minute and the dogs will eat them frozen anyway.
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02/07/12 01:58pm |
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RE: This is very strange.
...As far as carbohydrates, other than the ability of the animal to digest them and whatever is with them (complex glycoproteins like gluten in wheat, for instance) and possibly the glycemic impact for sensitive animals,...
The glycemic index of a carb does NOT only affect 'sensitive' dogs.
It has a cause and affect on all dogs/mammals. It is what it is. Each carb has a different glycemic level.
In a perfect working pancreas each carb's specific glycemic level activates the insulin reaction. Too much of one and the roller coaster is off and running.
Most mammals need protein, fat, and carbs. Eliminate any one of these 'completely' and the organs in the body will start yelling help! :C
I should have been more clear... Glycemic effect is going to affect all animals, in the sense that the processing is going to occur and the system is going to deal with it. Most animals have a pretty good range of tolerance where they're fine. Sensitive animals (and people) may react, however, to levels that a normal animal could handle easily. If you're dealing with a diabetic animal and maybe even one with a seizure disorder, you're going to want to be very careful about it. For a dog without a condition that it affects, it's a little less of a worry.
Dogs do very well without carbs or with very low carbs (basically fiber) and for that matter, so do people. Cats, definitely. Fats and proteins are another matter.
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02/07/12 01:55pm |
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RE: Speaking of vet questions.... update with pictures
And here are the little devils. Foxy (brown/white) is a rat terrier, I'm told. Chip appears to be some sort of collection of spare parts, with his head and a lot of his disposition coming from his chihuahua side. They are still on crate rest until their symptoms subside,and not very happy about it!
But you gotta be alive to complain about being in a crate, so I don't feel too guilty.
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02/06/12 11:14pm |
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RE: This is very strange.
Also is could be the combination of amino acids, not just the total protein. One nutritional method of treating hyperactivity and aggression is to ADD tryptophan.
GRRRR makes me angry that any co. would put more or different things in their food without doing there home work. i know I'm guilty too but I thought if the low fat was good for them the Grain Free would have been better. Guess I'm to trusting.
Losing battle. The internet adds another whole level of hype with little evidence. Choose carefully.
Doug, DVM
Personally . . . I'm not a fan of grain-free foods for dogs for several reasons.
First, every dog I've tried on a grain-free food has visibly lost body condition/muscle tone.
Second, I'm not convinced swapping out grains for potatoes, peas or tapioca is any kind of improvement, other than for those relatively few dogs who have a true allergy to grains. And note that I do in fact have one of those relatively rare dogs and I still don't like grain-free foods. My guy is only allergic to wheat, so he can handle foods with corn or rice just fine.
Third, I'm highly suspicious of the fact that all the dog food manufacturers jumped on the grain-free bandwagon right about the time grain prices were going through the roof. I'm guessing they were able to switch to potatoes (probably less expensive for them than grains), convince consumers the grain-free foods were somehow better, and thus charge them more money. Which of course meant more profit for the food manufacturers. Now I don't know that for sure, but it seems a likely scenario to me.
Interesting... I have to say that every dog I've taken off of grains has kept or improved their condition and, importantly, in every one of them I've seen an improvement in stool consistency and stability of their GI tracts. Less upsets, and those that happen are less difficult to resolve. The more we learn about the GI tract and how the state of it affects the immune system, the more important that is to me, beyond the issue of dealing with dogs with upset stomachs.
As far as carbohydrates, other than the ability of the animal to digest them and whatever is with them (complex glycoproteins like gluten in wheat, for instance) and possibly the glycemic impact for sensitive animals, I agree that a carb source is a carb source and potatoes or whatever are still carbs. But.... one thing about most of the "grain free" foods (other than the ones that are made just for allergies) is that they are geared to people who want less carbohydrates in their dogs' diets, and so they are usually higher protein and fat, and lower in carbs.
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02/06/12 01:53pm |
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RE: This is very strange.
If you want control of what's in your dogs' food, you have to make it yourself. Ditto your food. Even then, you have to look at ingredients and sourcing. If you're buying grain fed meat, you're buying meat that comes from animals that ate GMO "Round Up Ready" corn and soy. Which was of course.... sprayed very liberally with round-up, and guess where the round-up ended up? Just because the plant is more resistant to the stuff, doesn't make it any better for us or our dogs. Happy Monday!
Of course, if you're feeding corn or soy directly then on top of meat that's been produced by animals eating round up on their grains, you're feeding the same stuff directly. Something to consider.
Twenty-two percent isn't a particularly high protein content. Taste of the Wild is 32 percent. I know a rescue boarding kennel that takes only dogs that were rescued, usually straight out of the shelter. Many have behavioral issues, of course, and some stay for days but others stay for months. They all get better mentally while they're there. I know a lot of other people who feed TOTW or similar foods that are half again as much protein as this food we're discussing, and who don't have issues with aggression. I feed TOTW and raw meat or 95 percent meat canned food, and my dogs are happy go lucky idiots..... including the one that was a biter when she came into the family.
I know that Burt Ward (played Robin in Batman on tv) who runs Gentle Giants rescue, has a food out also, by the same name. He harps about not giving "high" protein. That food is 22 percent.
So while I can see where if you had an aggressive dog you might not want to go with a "high protein" food, or it might be worth trying something lower, 22 percent wouldn't seem to me to be in that category.
Which is to say, I'll buy that it may be the food, but I have a hard time with the idea that two unrelated dogs both happen to respond that way to what isn't a very high level of protein, let alone lots of different dogs in different families. That doesn't make sense.
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02/06/12 01:03pm |
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RE: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Factory
Hoomans are SO dense.... good thing we have dogs to figure this stuff out for us! Now if we could just learn to listen...
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02/05/12 08:07pm |
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RE: This is very strange.
What meds are they on and what for?
Liver issues can sometimes manifest in aggression. Steroids increase aggression. Blood sugar issues can result in aggression. Food has been found to affect behavior in susceptible kids, but I think that two dogs being affected in that specific way by the same food in the same house is a little unlikely.
Are they getting regular, structured walks? It is winter, and often winter weather discourages walking. Lack of activity can make them misbehave when you do take them out. Sometimes we just get a little lax and behvior deteriorates over time. Less exercise and less attention to discipline can produce a slow shift that you might not notice until it hits critical mass.
With all that being said if they have ongoing medical issues (which they do or they wouldn't be on meds) and you see a change in behavior, you want to have your vet give them a going over.
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02/05/12 04:43pm |
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RE: Speaking of vet questions.... update with pictures
We do have mice and other rodents in the desert. And they do eat everything/anything, so I guess it wouldn't be hard to transmit worms from one to the other.
They had only one option, Pyrantel, so that's what they're getting for the moment.
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02/05/12 12:11am |
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Speaking of vet questions.... update with pictures
I am getting a couple of foster dogs this afternoon. They already have meds for the KC (we only get dogs that are on their last day from Lancaster, so they're almost all going to be sick from having been there so long) so I will not be seeing a vet.
I figure they both need a good worming, but the budget is shoestring. I remember a discussion a while back of what would be the appropriate OTC meds for worms but I can't find it.
We have a full selection in the area, including a lot of tapeworms, which is odd since we don't have fleas in the desert. They get around somehow, though.
Ideas Doug? I have a Walmart in the area and would like to get them done tonight if I can. They're each about ten pounds.
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02/04/12 01:09pm |
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