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RE: MH - Propane Tank Sticker (Ontario)
maybe what needs to happen is that TSSA needs to hear from a lot of people regarding the problems they are facing and asking for assistance. In the scope of everything in the fields that TSSA are working, our industry is small stuff because we have not voiced our options loud enough. I emailed and written to them a number of times, without much success.
JMO
As for out of Ontario owners needing refilling of propane, sorry I have not checked into that, having enough problems finding refill locations in Ontario.
We also look for the propane pump stations similar to a gas pump and we also keep a look out for the bulk propane distribution locations and have been successfil in getting them to refill our on-board tank.
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04/25/12 06:29am |
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RE: German Newbies want to see Canada - starter questions
No matter what the decisions are as to route, timing, activities to see, Canada is a very vast country and trying to see it all in one season will be extremely difficult. I hope you plan to take your time, stop and enjoy before moving on to the next spot. If the trip takes a few years similar to our friends Danny and Shula Oren, then you will get a much better appreciation for what Canada is.
Many of us would appreciate reading about your adventures. We all learn when seeing things through someone else's eye.
Off season RVing (Canadian Thanksgiving in October to Victoria Day in May) - slowly Canada is realizing that RVing is happening 12 months of the year and a few additional parks are open but it takes some extensive checking to find them. In Ontario, Algonquin,Pinery, MacGregor Point Provincial Parks are open all year around with roads and campsites plowed, washroom open and in many cases a Volunteer Campground Host is on duty supporting Park Staff. There are a number of private campgrounds also open all year around.
Your trip sounds like an adventure of a lifetime. Good for you.
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04/21/12 07:57am |
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RE: MH - Propane Tank Sticker (Ontario)
The metal tag would be regarded as the same as the sticker but that is just a guess on my part. You might like to consider asking the TSSA via email or phone about your situation. You might have grounds for official complaint or you might learn something to share with everyone else.
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04/20/12 02:14pm |
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RE: German Newbies want to see Canada - starter questions
Hello and welcome to the forum. In Canada we have interesting things to see and enjoy in every Province. I am sure that various members will gladly share some of their favourite things to see and do. In my own Province of Ontario and in particular Northern Ontario, we have an event that might have some interest to you with your German background. Government of Canada has declared a new historic event that features the hosting of 34,000 German Prisoners of War held in Canada during WW-II. Many of the POWs returned to Canada to live following the war. A recent published article referred to them as the Happy Prisoners. The official plaque will be located at one of the 26 camps in Canada. That location will be Neys Provincial Park on the north shore of Lake Superior. We are currently waiting for the announcement as to the date of the unveiling ceremony. The ceremony might be late this summerbut that is not guaranteed. If this was something of interest to you, I could keep you informed.
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04/19/12 04:05pm |
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RE: MH - Propane Tank Sticker (Ontario)
TSSA website: If anyone has the direct link to where RV related matters are displayed, could you please post it. If you find the recertification list of firms able to do the work, could you please post it. I was just into the website and gave up trying to find information.
Anyone wishing to see a picture of the sticker can check our blog:
Sticker picture April 18th 2012 posting.
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04/18/12 07:47am |
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MH - Propane Tank Sticker (Ontario)
Recently I have received a number of follow up emails asking about propane tanks in MH and the need for a sticker.
This is a copy of what I posted earlier, updated
Posted: 11/11/10 04:02pm
Previous posting is now closed... hopefully this will assist others facing a similar problem ...
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... we learned of a propane regulation that is not very well enforced. If your motor home is more than 10 years old, your on-board propane tank needs to be certified. This Ontario certification is good for 5 years.
Here is what happened to us.
We arrived at a gas station that sold auto-propane in addition to refilling the regular propane tanks for BBQs etc. The clerk asked how old was our MH and when she discovered that it was more than 10 years old asked where our sticker was. We did not have the necessary sticker. We have been having our propane tank refilled a number of times each year and this was the first time that we heard of needing a sticker. According to the clerk, the regulation has been in effect for a number of years.
Yes, we did know that portable tanks had to be checked every 10 years and the retail outlets do a good job of checking the date stamp on the portable tanks but not so with regard to on-board tanks in a motor home. When we have chatted with other motor home owners, many have wondered if there was a regulation similar to the portable tanks but like us, had never been questioned by the retailer.
From a safety point of view, this regulation appears to make all kinds of sense and we were happy to conform but finding a certified person to do the work was a challenge.
When I asked where do I go to get the tank certified, she did not know but she would not refill our tank until such time as I had the sticker. Full marks for her for enforcing the regulations. Zero marks for not being very helpful as to where to go for assistance.
I phone two propane suppliers and neither of them did the certification. I phoned an RV dealer but they indicated that I could book me an appointment in about 6 weeks. I email the Ministry of Consumer Affairs and the regulators TSSA (who regulate the propane stuff) in an attempt to find someone who could check out our tank. Finally after a few additional phone calls, I was directed to an auto service garage and yes they could check the tank for me and issue a sticker.
(update) When I did get a reply from the Ministry, I was directed to check the TSSA website for places to have the recertification done - the last time I check which was sometime ago now, the website had not been updated.)
It turns out that the inspection for Motor Homes takes about an hour or so, tank is visually inspected and all connections are tested for leaks, (connections at the tank, lines to various appliances, and all appliance connections). The firm was the only firm other than the RV Dealer who could not accommodate us within a reasonable time frame, within two hours drive of my location at the time. We were thankful that we had the extend-a-stay system and could use an auxiliary propane tank.
We made an appointment to have the work done and if anyone is interested in additional details, please email us.
Our new sticker was placed on our MH window facing outward so that it could be read by the person needing to refill our tank.
The place that we had the work done was:
Enviran Auto Service, Flesherton, Ontario. 1-888-986-3834
We were very pleased with the friendly service that we received!
We are less than pleased with the propane industry and it network of retailers commitment to safety and service.
To our Government and its regulators, why is it so difficult to get information?
Update: Since obtaining the sticker, we have never been asked about it. Whether the sticker was noticed or not by the service person we do not know. We have noticed that everytime we have the portable tanks filled, the date on the tank is checked.
Moderator: If you wish to switch this to MH catagory, that is okay.
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04/18/12 07:31am |
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RE: Sudbury to Wawa
"Sultan Industrial Road". My recommendation is to avoid that road. As you are aware, it is gravel and depending when it was last graded, the conditions can be challenging. Try Sudbury, Timmins, Wawa - That is the route that I was recalling. Memory must be going also. (600 km) Sorry about the incorrect information posted earlier. Sounds to me hwy #17 is your better option.
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04/18/12 06:52am |
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RE: Sudbury to Wawa
I have travelled the 35-144-101 route and I have travelled the #17 route both in the past couple of years.
Both routes - paved road.
Both routes - rivers and trees and lakes
Scenic - #17 is by far the more scenic route.
Hills: #17 has more hills to go up and down.
Places to Eat: #17 has many more spots
Campgrounds and Parks: #17 has many more.
Distance: 35-144-101= 418 km; #17 = 521 km
Hope this is of some assistance.
I also have a MH and would suggest #17. As with any trip, the enjoyment of the journey is high on my list of priorities. Enjoy the trip and take the time to learn about what you are seeing. Our historical markers are worthy of stopping and reading. A new marker will be soon installed at Neys Provincial Park.
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04/17/12 07:31pm |
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RE: Hello Canada! Nube here
As a northern Ontario resident, RVer and extensive traveller of northern Ontario (along with other locations) if you wish information about NOnt, just ask and I am sure many of us can provide some useful information for you.
Welcome to the forum and happy travels.
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04/17/12 07:44am |
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RE: Sault Ste. Marie Ontario to Sherbrooke Quebec
You might like to consider the North Shore of Lake Superior from Duluth to Thunder Bay to Sault Ste Marie. It is a very nice scenic drive. On a clear day there are some awesome views including a few where you can see the curvature of the earth. If you would like some additional information, email me.
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04/17/12 07:38am |
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RE: Traveling through Canada
I recommend that when you are visiting someone or visiting another country, it is alway better to be polite. Why not have the currency of the country with you? Canadians travelling in the USA and Americans travelling in Canada have the proper currency with you and enjoy your trip.
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04/13/12 06:49am |
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RE: Early season in Algonquin provincial park (Boondocking?)
Speaking of dump stations why is it NOT plowed all season? PITA that I have to drag it all the way home and lucky I have a Flojet to get rid of it.
Many of us in the winter season will dump at the vault toilets using a bucket type system. I happen to have a number of 22 ltr white plastic pails with lids that I am able to use. I wonder how the FLOJET system might work if you were to stop at the vault toilet on your way out of the campground?
Private Pilot:
Sorry to read about the breakdown and to have to sit around all day waiting for places to open tomorrow, that is the pits...big time! Been there, done that, did not like it, but what can you do... stuff happens...
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04/06/12 09:54am |
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RE: Early season in Algonquin provincial park (Boondocking?)
Update from Algonquin Park (Thursday morning- April 5)
"Hi Frank
Happy Easter,
All of Mew Lake is open for the weekend and there should be no snow left other than some piles left on the ground here and there and if have to will put people in Two Rivers Campground this weekend and they will have to use the Mew Lake comfort station.
Harv"
We also understand that at MacGregor Point Provincial Park near Port Elgin Ontario, that Birch Blvd, Ash Woods are both open. The staff are prepared to open Cedar Grove also.
Sounds like it is going to be a busy camping weekend for the parks that are open. Maybe this is a sign that Ontario Parks should be considering opening additional campgrounds earlier in the season.
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04/05/12 06:22am |
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RE: Early season in Algonquin provincial park (Boondocking?)
Reply received from Algonquin Park:
Hi Frank
All the snow has melted. The campground is clear and dry at this point with a good forecast we are expecting lots of campers. All campsites are open and it is first come first serve. We did fill up a few years ago and did open LTR as overflow. Looks like it will be a great weekend for camping. Harvey and Adam will be working this weekend.
Ed
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04/03/12 08:02am |
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RE: Early season in Algonquin provincial park (Boondocking?)
Historically Easter Weekend at Mew Lake is busy and if the weather forecast is good, it will be the same this year. The park staff know this and they will be attempting to have as many campsites plowed out as possibly if there is still piles of snow. Have not heard what the snow situation is recently. Less snow equals more campsites (non hydro) will be accessible. I've sent an email to the one of the park staff asking about the snow and will post the reply.
If by boondocking you mean free camping, forget it, you are in a Provincial Park and the fees apply whether in a campground, backcountry, canoe trip, hiking, etc. (Spring, summer, fall, winter)
Frank
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04/03/12 07:17am |
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RE: WW-II Canadian PoW Camps to be Historic Event
For those interested in reading some additional information that was previously posted but deleted, I suggest you visit my blog
http://flspence.blogspot.com. March 27, 2012 posting.
Thanks to the previous two posters for supporting this thread. I appreciate the decision to reopen the discussion.
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03/29/12 04:41pm |
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RE: Algonquin here we come!
You will be very happy with your stay in Algonquin as it is world famous. Remember to go exploring with your camera, you will see some awesome sights. Moose, various birds landing on your out stretched hand looking for food, four legged small animals, etc. You will not be able to do it all in one visit. Trip #1 - get on overview of the park, Trip #2: focus in on a few key areas, Trip #3 - enjoy the fall colour, Trip #4 - come back for a winter visit at Mew Lake (totally different)
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03/20/12 07:44am |
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RE: Kettle Lakes
It has been a few years since we stopped in at Kettle Lake PP but recall it being a very nice park. You should have a good time.
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03/20/12 07:23am |
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RE: Minnesota into Canada and heading east to Nova Scotia
Some time ago, I wrote a three page overview driving from Duluth to Quebec via the northshore of Lake Superior. If you would like a copy of that document send me your email address.
Every trip is what you make of it. Take your time, meet the people, enjoy the culture, local foods, and the local events. Bring a camera and be ready to build a lifetime of memories.
Like others I have travelled the route from Duluth up to Thunder Bay, across to Sault Ste Marine, North Bay, Algonquin Park, Ottawa, to Montreal and Quebec City and into the Maritimes numerous times and I keep seeing and learning new things everytime.
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03/09/12 07:36am |
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RE: touring Ontario from mid-August
Sometime ago I wrote about travelling from Thunder Bay to Quebec City. If you would like to have a copy of that document, send me your email address (3 pages long as I remember it) and I will gladly share it with you. Too long to post here.
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03/06/12 07:05am |
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