pianotuna

Regina, SK, Canada

Senior Member

Joined: 12/18/2004

View Profile

Offline
|
Hi
BFL13 is our resident expert on external chargers. I'd ask him in your shoes.
Regards, Don
Kustom Koach Class C 28'5" 256 watts solar, 875 amp hours in two battery banks 12 volt batteries 2500 watt inverter.
|
LaunchnRetrieve

Sonoma County, CA

Full Member

Joined: 01/12/2012

View Profile

Offline
|
Hi BFL3
Here's my plan (can't get to store for hydrometer until Thursday and leaving on Friday for camping):
From a recent post:
---------------------
Hi PT,
Love the graph!
OK, so I have an Interstate 12V Deep Cycle SRM-24 battery.
With my Vector "Smart" charger running at 2amps to charge the battery it takes about 24 hours or less to obtain a "Full" reading. If this is the time the graph is referring to for charging my battery in storage then I'm nowhere near the hours the graph shows it would take to achieve 90% or full charge.
That brings up the question, does repeat charging add up or does it have to be a continuous "100" hours of charging?
At this stage, per some previous advice, going to desulfate x 3 then charge, use for the weekend, then charge x 4. Am I in the ballpark or still clueless?
Also, what is the difference between charging at 2amps, or 10 or 35? Those are the options on my charger.
Thanks
--------------------------------------
BFL13 wrote: When the Vector says "full" the first time, run it again at the low amp setting until it says "full" again. That will get you closer to a real full. if it has the Equalize feature with the hidden button, do that next until it says "full" again from that.
Next, very important, is take an hydrometer reading. If the battery has been undercharged, it will be sulfated. It might read 1.260 instead of 1.275. Now use the Vector for three or four days in a row of "Reconditioning" Charge again to "full" See if SG is up closer to 1.275.
If you need more amp hours for camping you can get a pair of batteries instead of just one. One battery usually won't get you through the night if you run the furnace.
IMO wait till you get a grip on the battery situation before spending $200 on a fancy monitor. You should have a $15 digital multimeter though for your voltmeter. That and the hydrometer will tell you enough for most needs..
2001 F-150 SuperCrew (with tow package etc)
2003 Fleetwood Prowler 25J
2006 Sea Ray 185 Sport
Always at least 2 dogs in the family (currently lab and chug)
|
mena661

Southern California

Senior Member

Joined: 03/21/2009

View Profile

Offline
|
LaunchnRetrieve wrote: Hi PT,
Love the graph!
OK, so I have an Interstate 12V Deep Cycle SRM-24 battery.
With my Vector "Smart" charger running at 2amps to charge the battery it takes about 24 hours or less to obtain a "Full" reading. If this is the time the graph is referring to for charging my battery in storage then I'm nowhere near the hours the graph shows it would take to achieve 90% or full charge.
That brings up the question, does repeat charging add up or does it have to be a continuous "100" hours of charging?
Has to be a continuous charge. If you use the battery, then you have to "start over".
At this stage, per some previous advice, going to desulfate x 3 then charge, use for the weekend, then charge x 4. Am I in the ballpark or still clueless?
You need a glass float hydrometer. After each equalization with the Vector, check your specific gravity (SG). Unfortunately, you don't have a baseline to go from but generally 1.275 @ 77F is 100% full.
Also, what is the difference between charging at 2amps, or 10 or 35? Those are the options on my charger.
Yes, generally the more amps the faster the charge BUT those amps must be in conjunction with a high voltage (your charger does 14.7V compensated for temperature if you have the VEC1093DBD). I believe the interstate grp 24 is ~82 amp hours (Ah) so a safe charge rate is ~20 amps.
Thanks
2006 Ford F250 Lariat 6.0 PSD 2WD
2010 Keystone Outback Super-Lite 285FL 5er, Reese Signature Series 18K w/Manual Slider
Four Trojan L16 6V's (740Ah)
|
pianotuna

Regina, SK, Canada

Senior Member

Joined: 12/18/2004

View Profile

Offline
|
Hi,
I got a surprize this week when I tried to use my Vector charger at -6 C (21 f). It immediately gave me a fault code. I guess it is temperature compensated and will not work at those (mild) temperatures?
|
CA Traveler

The Western States

Senior Member

Joined: 01/03/2004

View Profile

Offline
|
pianotuna wrote: Hi,
I got a surprize this week when I tried to use my Vector charger at -6 C (21 f). It immediately gave me a fault code. I guess it is temperature compensated and will not work at those (mild) temperatures? Ship it to me and I'll test it and make sure it's OK.  
2009 Holiday Rambler 42 Scepter with ISL 400 Cummins
2004 Honda CR-V
Bob
|
|
|
mexbungalows

las peñas, michoacan, mexico

Senior Member

Joined: 06/01/2007

View Profile

Offline
|
Mena, many amp hour meters can be set to reflect kWh. I used to use an "Omni Meter" many years ago. I don't know if the Trimetric can be set from A/H to kWh but it would be a nice thing if it did.
|
LaunchnRetrieve

Sonoma County, CA

Full Member

Joined: 01/12/2012

View Profile

Offline
|
pianotuna wrote: Hi,
I got a surprize this week when I tried to use my Vector charger at -6 C (21 f). It immediately gave me a fault code. I guess it is temperature compensated and will not work at those (mild) temperatures?
Wrap it in an electric blanket?
|
mexbungalows

las peñas, michoacan, mexico

Senior Member

Joined: 06/01/2007

View Profile

Offline
|
Trimetric's website just told me that the 2025 can be set to reflect kWh transactions.
|
CA Traveler

The Western States

Senior Member

Joined: 01/03/2004

View Profile

Offline
|
mexbungalows wrote: Trimetric's website just told me that the 2025 can be set to reflect kWh transactions. Maybe, as you can display A or W, either one can be on the primary display with the other on the secondary display. The display in W is the product of volts and amps so it appears to have an accurate W representation.
However the battery full function is only displayed in AH (or %), so the W display is limited to live data. If one has a desire to know how many watts the battery contains this meter doesn't help.
|
CA Traveler

The Western States

Senior Member

Joined: 01/03/2004

View Profile

Offline
|
From a practical RV point I don't get the desire to know KWH in the battery. And although I can set the 2025 to display AH left in the battery I'm quite satisfied with the % full display. If it says 50% it's time to recharge and it really doesn't bother me if the actual capacity is somewhat more or less.
I don't even care how many watts my coffee maker uses, I do know that it's about 6A AC and I consider that if I'm on a 30A pedestal with other AC loads. And I'm very much aware that it draws 66A from the inverter. I also know how much the inverter amp draw is for the TV, satellite receiver and MW because all of this is coming out of my batteries. Watts on the other hand come from my gen or utility company so of much less concern to me.
BTW I'm an electrical engineer and know and love watts. Maybe if I was a battery designer I'd know and love battery watts but would see that it's labeled in AH.
|
|
|