57 Panhead
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hmknightnc wrote:
In the real world that FW is pushing the limits of a 3/4 ton and approaching 1 ton with SRW based on the pin wieght plus other stuff.
Bull Dung!!! That trailer is well within the rating of a 3/4 ton. As far as the OPs question, I wouldn't so much concern myself with GVWR and payload capacity based on that number. Find out what the axle rating and tire rating is and then figure if you are within those numbers. If so then you should be OK.
In reality more truck is always better and big power like a V10 or a diesel is nice to have. You will likely be at the upper end of what that truck is capable of and I'm fairly certain that after a trip or two you will want a bigger truck.
Good luck and happy camping.
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Francesca Knowles
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Good payload information at 2007 F150 Specifications
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goodcruisin
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Get a travel trailer! Your F-150 can only manage small 5ers due to payload limits. You can pull a much bigger TT with your standard hitch with a weight distribution system. Check out RV Basics, RV Towing Tips and Trailer Loading and Towing Guide.
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M GO BLUE
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Too much weight and too much pin weight...
Minimum 3/4 ton truck (and diesel if you can afford it)...
I have never been a bog proponent of any 1/2 ton truck pulling any fifth wheel (unless they are really light and short)...with a 1/2 ton truck you are in the travel trailer category and even there you have too watch the length...
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KenandPamfromMI
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Well, thanks all.....I did find some additional info
5er GVWR is indeed 11,430
pin weight is 1270
dry weight of 6970
my f150 specs say payload is 1630, tow max loaded 8300 with the gearing I have
rear axle GAWR is 3850
GCWR = 14000
GVWR = 7200
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TriumphGuy
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Not to hijack or anything, but this is a 2012 you're looking at, I assume at a dealer ... salesman had nothing to say about your tow rig? If I had a nickel for every time I was told "yeah you can pull that no problem..." Not that this was the case but I am curious.
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mbrule
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KenandPamfromMI wrote:Well, thanks all.....I did find some additional info
5er GVWR is indeed 11,430
pin weight is 1270
dry weight of 6970
my f150 specs say payload is 1630, tow max loaded 8300 with the gearing I have
rear axle GAWR is 3850
GCWR = 14000
GVWR = 7200
These numbers tell the story:
Truck payload: 1630
DRY Pin: 1270 (will be more loaded)
Hitch: 200
1470 payload used already for hitch and empty fiver, that leaves 160 lbs remaining payload capacity.
If the combined weight of you, your family, any stuff you load in the pickup, and the additional pin weight of the loaded fiver is less the 160 lbs, you will be fine.
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phillyg
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Okay, I'm probably going to get blasted by the weight police, but I think a good thing because I think I'm overloaded, and I previously said I'd eat crow if I am. I finally weighed my 2002 Cougar 286 FW, 29 ft, and this should help you make your decision.
UVW: 7,300 lbs
Actual weight, moderately loaded with full propane and empty water/grey/black tanks: 8,820 lbs
2004 F150 SC with tow package, 3.73, and rated for 9,200 lbs, with full gas and 250 lb SuperGlide 12k hitch and me (200 lbs): 6,420 lbs
Truck and FW: 15,075 lbs
Truck GVWR: 7,200 lbs
FGAWR: 3,730 lbs
RGAWR: 3,850 lbs
I can't find the GCVWR for my 150. I did not get separate weights for each axle and I don't know the actual pin weight of the FW, but at 8,820 lbs it would figure to 1,323 lbs at 15%, and 2,205 lbs on the high side at 25%. For me, moderately loaded means my front storage is almost empty so I'm leaning to the 15% range, but maybe that's wishful thinking. So, at 7,200 GVWR, and 6,420 lbs on the truck without my wife and dog, I have only 780 lbs left for the pin, putting me grossly overloaded on GVWR, and moderately overloaded on the rear axle? I'll be much worse off when I put the genset in the truck bed and some clothes and food in the FW, but I could shave off a few pounds if I leave my DW and dog home LOL.
Unless I'm figuring this out wrong, I need at least a 3/4t to pull this FW, even though I have had no difficulty pulling or stopping it for about 1,500 miles so far. If I am correct, you shouldn't do this with your F150, either. Which means, and I'm bowing low to all you weight police out there who I do respect, the most FW you can pull with a 1/2t is about 25', at best.
2002 Keystone Cougar 286, 8,400lbs loaded, pulled with a 2004 F150 Supercrew, 5.4, 3.73 gears. Retired and enjoying life
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469whj469
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Yes, and I would not pull any 5er, except that little Casita 5er. Weight and not length is the issue. If you have already pulled it for 1,500 miles than you should know? The pin and rear axle weights will be a problem.
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KenandPamfromMI
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Again, thank you all for the responses, even if they were not what I wanted to hear....lol
We have decided to stick with a TT.
So....what max hitch weight and dry TT weight should I look for?
We are hoping to go about 30'.
Also, anyone have a smokin deal on a rear kitchen late model?...lol
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