PapPappy
Wilmington, NC
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We want bigger and better.....it's the American way!!
Look at some of the trailers that they have in Europe....they are being towed with Yugo's for God's sake. You just about have a 3/4T to tow anything here.
I agree that some Mfgr. is going to make something that really changes the industry...and more than likely, it won't be from any of the Biggies here in this country.
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ReverendCharles
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I think a lot of the prices are the dealer markup, prices can vary 35% between dealers, understand that they have high overhead. I know that I cant build a Keystone Outback for $16500 and that includes the dealer prep, shipping and profit. The same trailer at another dealer will have a sale price of $25000. What I would like to see are more European style small rv’s without slides. Charles
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slickest1
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If you are building something to sell for the prices they are charging they should take some pride in their products. One thing I don't understand is the price of a nice truck camper. You can buy a nice travel trailer or fifth wheel for the same or less in some cases.
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Homer
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Most of the comments so far explain why there are no vast changes in RV's. We are too ready to accept the status quo and will keep doing it and they know it.
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wandering1
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korbe wrote:I would guess that the successful manufacturer's understand the market.
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PackerBacker
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slickest1 wrote:If you are building something to sell for the prices they are charging they should take some pride in their products. One thing I don't understand is the price of a nice truck camper. You can buy a nice travel trailer or fifth wheel for the same or less in some cases.
I agree. I keep looking at the new Lance campers but can't for the life of me figure out the difference in price content between them and a nice 28'-32' 5th wheel. I just don't get it!
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SRT
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Another reason why we have chosen to stay with our 12 year old motor home. It has the floor plan we like, everything works (knock on wood), and is the right length for getting into small camping sites.
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Sooner Schooner
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I think there is only so much you can do with a box on wheels. They could possibly upgrade with more modern products such as lighting, electronics, etc. but then we all complain about price. (Me included) I wish they would spend more time on exterior such as better, classy, graphics and paint jobs.
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mowermech
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"Where is the creativity and innovation?"
Why limit the question to RVs? Compare the automobile offerings of today with what was available in the '40s through the '70s. Remember when you could tell what kind of car you were looking at with just a cursory glance? Now, it is hard to tell them apart even if you have a chance to look closely!
Look at movies and television shows. Why are so many nothing more than remakes (or extensions) of old ones?
I tend to believe that "creativity and innovation" are lost arts these days, in most aspects of society. Oh, yes, there ARE exceptions. There are ALWAYS exceptions!
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Cloud Dancer
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There are many of us who do NOT like the way everything has to 'change'. If it's not broken, DON'T mess with it!
"Change" is very expensive, and the worst part is that EVERYONE has to pay for it, even those of us who did not want the 'change'.
Sure, I understand improvements. For example, Newmar improved their Dutch Star significantly from 1999 to 2003 (I was on top of it). But, I can tell you that the 2003 needed a few more improvements, which IMO they were able to accomplish in the 2004 and 2005 models. But, the cost of manufacturing also increased significantly. They could've frozen the design in 2005, and still have a very good product. But, we know it doesn't work that way. The market demands "change". But, perhaps the manufacturers have "run the gamut" on innovations. The "Amercain way" is screwed up, in many ways. There's nothing we can do about it, so DEAL WITH IT!
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