rockhillmanor
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I often warn people of buying dogs from "non-profit rescue org" websites. Many seem to not want to believe that puppy mills and hoarders are now using this venue to sell their dogs. Well.....
Yesterday a woman in Florida surrendered all her animals that were found starving and sick AND she was set free and not charged because she said she was moving to another state.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/osc........-animal-control-seizes-dozens-of-animals
Even though just less than 2 years ago they found 100's of dead animals on her farm in - Alabama!
She advertises her rescues on a website, twitter, and facebook as a non-profit rescue org.
Click on this warm and fuzzy non-profit rescue link for rescue website owned by her.
On edit: they just took down all her webpages.
Then click on this one to see what really is behind this rescue org. She abandoned these animals for over a week without food or water AND her phone records showed she was twittering away the whole time to her 'rescue website' while she was just 10 minutes away from the kennel. Warning, video is very very graphic.
http://www.lifewithdogs.tv/2012/01/kennel-abandoned-humane-society-overwhelmed/
Alabama, Florida.....which state will she set up in next to abuse animals in?
More importantly how many more people will continue to buy dogs and/or place dogs from these non-profit rescue sites without actually going out to these establishments BEFORE buying? 
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People like her should be taken out back and executed.
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rockhillmanor wrote:
Yesterday a woman in Florida surrendered all her animals that were found starving and sick AND she was set free and not charged because she said she was moving to another state.
THIS blows my mind, considering the extent of the crime. She makes Michael Vick look like a saint - I hope the pet lovers of the world track her, and make sure she NEVER sets up an animal "shelter" again.
I also couldn't help but notice that was a pretty fancy place she lived in - wish they could seize the place and use the sale of it to recoup some of the costs of caring for her animals??
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I can't even describe how I feel about this, I have never wished bad will on anyone before, except now...........
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I agree - not all rescues are really what they appear to be. It is a sad situation when you need to vet the rescue more than they need to vet you before the adoption.
I know of several 501c3 rescues that are really just hoarding situations. Few adoptions out, lots of dogs coming in, dogs in poor health, poor living conditions....
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Your advice is heard often and yet... we've never seen evidence of a puppy miller posted.
Rescuers are very prone to getting in over their heads. If you spend a little time on FB following the animals in various areas, it is easy to see why. In a country where four to five MILLION animals are killed every year because of human greed and indifference, it is very hard to do rescue and just to see all the faces of animals that are going to die. There's a natural tendency to want to save them all. Some of us manage to rein in that tendency, others do not.
If someone is posting animals on petfinder, good for them. If it turns out that they aren't placing animals, then you may have a hoarder problem. If they're placing animals that aren't purebred puppies, they are NOT puppy millers and they are NOT making a profit. It costs hundreds of dollars to rescue a dog out of a shelter and pay for food, medical, and transport to get that animal to where it can be adopted. No one that's placing animals that came out of a shelter is making money. No one. Not if they're charging 300 or 400 or 800 dollars.
And don't give me a line of******about how awful this woman is, and how she's running a scam and I just don't get it... or I'll come on here and start posting pictures of all the dogs and cats that are about to get killed. You've no idea what it costs me to restrain myself as it is. She's another person who kept walking into the shelter and seeing another dog or cat that was going to get murdered for human convenience the next morning, and didn't know how to say "I can't take any more animals." If you want to see less of that problem, then we need more animals spayed and neutered, so there aren't so many to get killed.
But you're opposed to that, also, so... deal with it. This is the natural and unavoidable consequence of having a society that allows people to five million more "pets" each year than are wanted.
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rockhillmanor
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Quote:She's another person who kept walking into the shelter and seeing another dog or cat that was going to get murdered for human convenience the next morning, and didn't know how to say "I can't take any more animals."
Wow I can't believe anyone would stand behind a person who starves and abuses animals 'repeatedly! Apparently she did NOT use any of the money she got from selling these 'rescues saved from euthanasia' for dog food. The dead dogs can attest to that and probably would have preferred to be humanely euthanized. 
And I know for a fact the Miniature Horses she abused where NOT saved from a kill shelter nor where the Llamas. This is not just a 'oh she's just a hoarder we should feel sorry for her' case. This is a person who very calculatingly placed false rescue ads to profit for herself with total disregard to animal welfare. The typical MO for a puppy mill. In one of the police reports it was stated that it was also a breeding operation.And no I a not going to post all the links there are a ton of them do your own search.
Quote:If they're placing animals that aren't purebred puppies, they are NOT puppy millers and they are NOT making a profit.
The definition/connotation of the 'term' puppy mill is breeding dogs for profit and found to be operating in unfit conditions. ANY type of dogs, it is NOT limited to pure bred dogs. And they can be found anywhere from remote farms to someone in your own neighborhood. I personally have seen it all and everywhere working with the humane society for equine and small animals.
Interestingly the Equine humane society teams do not try and be politically correct and put a specific name to these type of people nor do we worry about doing so or deciphering, we just go in and save the animals.
Neutering is not the answer to stopping people who "falsify themselves as rescue orgs" to trick the public and put money in their own pocket.
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I'm confused. At least I hope I'm confused.
You think being a non-profit rescue in and of itself is somehow a bad thing? Why else would you emphasize it so much in your first post? Are you implying that rescues should be run to make a profit?
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X2 Susan......Very well said!
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Pawz4me wrote:I'm confused. At least I hope I'm confused.
You think being a non-profit rescue in and of itself is somehow a bad thing? Why else would you emphasize it so much in your first post? Are you implying that rescues should be run to make a profit?
"Rock" does seem to indeed have a vendetta against rescue groups, as odd as that is for someone who shows dogs.  He/she attempts to state his/her case against rescue groups every chance he/she gets. The biggest challenge against his/her case is that the rare articles he/she finds and posts links to, are the exception to the way the majority of rescue groups operates and not the rule. But if a rescuer gets in over their head and Rock finds out about it, well you see what happens. The actions of a few cannot discredit the good done by the majority, it simply cannot.
Rock also has an agenda against petfinder.com because he/she says that it's likely all the animals are from puppy mills or hoarders and not legitimate rescue groups. I have no idea where he/she gets such misinformation or why he/she is allowed to post it on a pet forum. I'd be willing to bet there are even some "show breeders" on such websites that have dogs they need to cull.... but according to him/her they are all puppy millers, back yard breeders, or hoarders not rescues. 
Sorry, if anyone was allowed to know more about "Rock" maybe I would be able to know which gender and perhaps even... gasp... a name.  It must be comforting on some level to hide behind a keyboard and spout off about a personal agenda while feeling so anonymous. It's not working for many, especially those of us with REAL life experience with legitimate rescue groups.
On edit: Y'all know me.... I would NEVER advocate any person or group of any sort being allowed to hoard & neglect animals. It is clear that in the case Rock cited there must be much more to the story and extremely likely mental illness is involved. Hoarders often begin with good intentions to become rescuers and things go downhill from there, especially if the kind heart is adversely effected by mental health issues.
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