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MrWizard

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Posted: 01/24/12 11:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

my Vizo TV will receive either digital or analog

but I don't know if that's they of all TV now being sold

an FCC regulation might be in effect, but I don't know


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Posted: 01/25/12 12:19am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ploiselle wrote:

Bonefish wrote:

Look at the specs on the TV.

Be sure tuner handles NTSC(analog), digital ATSC, 8-VSB, Clear-QAM which will cover all over air transmissions in UHF and VHF, and CATV for cable. And your old bat wing antenna will receive digital.

Bonefish
If I am reading your post correctly, Clear-QAM will cover all OTA signals and CATV or do I need to see if the specs say that it will handle NTSC(analog), digital ATSC, 8-VSB and Clear-QAM?

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In the states with an antenna you WILL NEED a tuner capable to scan for NTSC and ATSC channels and CATV for cable. The others I was told help to cover all the bases. I know down here when close to the border we get Mexican channels over air. No way to tell what format they are coming in on.

Be careful there are some sets still out there that only get NTSC floating around. I know I got stuck on my first flat screen, good price but no returns. It works fine for cable or satelite feed but no good for over air.

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Digital TVs vary in what they are equipped to tune, and demodulate or decode. Read the information on the TV box. TVs sold retail in the U.S. should be able to handle the NTSC analog modulation, unless the TV is sold as a monitor. The manufacturers or marketers are free to do what they want about analog cable.


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Posted: 01/26/12 12:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A digital TV does not mean it will pickup off air digital channels.

IF it only has a NTSC TUNER you will not get any digital stations without another piece of equipment (a analog to digital converter box).

ATSC is the DIGITAL off air TUNER standard.

You want BOTH built into the set!

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ploiselle wrote:

I am in the process of having my TV's upgraded to LED TV's. I did not do a search since I have a marginal Internet.

Does a digital tuner allow you to receive analog signals?

I ask because I noticed that at least one small LG TV has both a NTSC tuner and a Digital tuner.

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Hey Paul,
Was peeking around at some new digi tv's myself and they all seem to have a digital and an analog tuner. At least these do. http://www.12volt-travel.com/12-volt-televisions-c-684.html

The analog tuner is still pretty important when you consider satellite receivers, vcrs, the kids video games with coax will use analog 3 or 4. so without both tuners any devices being fed in will have to use av cables or something else.


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We are putting a Directv SWM HD system in. OTA and cable will use the same coax as Diretv with a diplexer separating the signals at each DVR. OTA and cable (switched from a switch box) will use coax and Directv will us a HDMI cable. Both TV's will have a BlueRay player using HDMI cables.

The two Samsungs I bought do not have a NTSC tuner. The specs for the picture quality was much better than the sets that did have a NTSC tuner The Samsungs have a really nice beveled edge, so they should look great in the cabinets. I sacrificed the tuner for a better picture.

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Posted: 02/07/12 10:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

UPDATE

Both Samsung LED TV's receive analog stations even though neither spec says that they have a NTSC tuner.

Both 99 and 103 had errors during DirecTv's setup. Winegard says that is normal. The picture on both TV's is exceptional (Directv and OTA).

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I have been using Channel Vision modulators to distribute video throughout the house for 15 years. It works great with our Tivo, Blu-ray and one last remaining VCR. All of our TV's, both in the house and in the motorhome are ATSC digital sets.

I just recently added Dish and Blu-ray in the motorhome and use one to modulate and distribute video to the rear TV using the existing coax. I believe all of the new TV's still include a NTSC tuner, but you are right, they don't mention it. I pulled my stuff out of the house to try it first before buying for the motorhome. The Jensen TV's locked on to the assigned analog channel with no problem. The analog picture quality going to the rear may not be true HD, but it is outstanding. Winnie has a cheap modulator hooked to the in-house dvd player, but the quality is so poor it is not watchable.

I hope they continue to incorporate the analog tuners - no one makes a modulator that outputs an ATSC signal. Analog is still widely used for my type of application as well as video cameras (security systems) and a host of other uses. Unfortunately, as wireless technology continues to mature, I'm afraid good old fashioned hard wire is going to go by the wayside.


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There are 3 (Actually about 5) TV standards in the US today, all are in use and modern TV's do all of them, some auto-adjust to the standard.

1: ATSC (American Television Standards Comittee) Digital over the air
2-3-4-?: QAM. Quadature Amplute Modulation: Digital cable, several verisons. mostly have to do with channel distribution, not modulation, so all use the same decoder.

Last: Analog, NTSC (National Television Standards Comittee) the old way to do it.

Cable companies use all but ATSC, so all tv's made today have to do ... Analog. or their cable customers would be cuss-some-mores.


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Posted: 02/08/12 11:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I know that there is a website that you can type in your location and it gives you the direction and location of all OTA stations in your area. I have done a Google and a RV.net search and can't find it. Could someone post the link?

Thank you
Paul

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