willald
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Belgique wrote:My barrel chair is in the rafters of my garage. Hated that sucker. If you're in eastern NC, come by and it's yours.
Well, Belgique, we're actually on western side of NC (not far from Charlotte), but I just may take you up on that offer! 'Twould give us a good excuse to take the new MH (when we get it) on a trip to the NC coast. Always love going to the Outer Banks. 
(..Although, all the responses here, combined with yours saying that you're even willing to GIVE one away that you stashed away in the roof rafters....Really does make it sound like we are not going to want a barrel chair, either, hahaha)
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sowego
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It sounded to me like you had sat in a barrel chair...if not you may find, as others have stated..they aren't great to sit in.
I would indeed look into a Euro chair and have it secured to the floor to keep it from sliding around but, I could not say it would be safe enough to ride on. Personally -- I'd put guests on a couch or at the dinette belted in.
I'm sure someone out there has had experience with that.
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FWIW my barrel chair is in place but get's used as a coat rack and camera/junk storage area. Not sure the last time anyone sat in it. And no ours isn't comfortable (too upright).
I plan on replacing ours with a shoe rack on shelves and a scuppered table top. Then add a proper coat rack attached to it.
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willald
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sowego wrote:It sounded to me like you had sat in a barrel chair...if not you may find, as others have stated..they aren't great to sit in.
Yeah, thats the conclusion I'm quickly coming to. Unfortunately, none of the dealers around here carry ANY units with the barrel chair. That should probably tell us something, though, huh?
Quote:I would indeed look into a Euro chair and have it secured to the floor to keep it from sliding around but, I could not say it would be safe enough to ride on.
Yeah, fact is that NO seats in a MH are very safe, except for driver and passenger. Sooo, its a matter of making it 'safe enough' to make you feel comfortable letting passengers ride there. As long as I felt the seat wouldn't break loose in most 'sudden' stops, I'd probably be OK with it. I realize that anything more than that, and it won't be pretty.
Quote:Personally -- I'd put guests on a couch or at the dinette belted in.
Oh, I plan to. The couch has two seat belts, dinette has one seat belt on forward facing side, and we're going to have the dealer install at least one more set of belts on forward facing side. We may have them put seat belts on rear facing side of dinette as well.
There will be times we may have a total of 3 children and 2 adults (grandparents) traveling with us. In that case, it'd be really nice if we could sit one of them in the chair behind the passenger seat.
Quote:I'm sure someone out there has had experience with that.
Thats what I'm hoping, too..
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I really question whether a dealer would install or make changes to your coach that included the installation of seat belts. Seems their liability in such a situation would be tremendous is someone got hurt in an accident......JMHO...thinking like an attorney... ...I hate when I do that..!!!.. ....Dennis
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willald
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Executive wrote:I really question whether a dealer would install or make changes to your coach that included the installation of seat belts. Seems their liability in such a situation would be tremendous is someone got hurt in an accident......JMHO...thinking like an attorney... ...I hate when I do that..!!!.. ....Dennis
I wondered the same thing, Dennis, but found that simply is not the case - they are willing to install seat belts almost where ever we want them.
..Although to your point about 'speaking like an attorney': I'm sure when the time comes for them to actually do the installation, they'll probably make me sign a big 'disclaimer' form, freeing them from any liability should anything bad happen..
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sowego
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willald wrote:Executive wrote:I really question whether a dealer would install or make changes to your coach that included the installation of seat belts. Seems their liability in such a situation would be tremendous is someone got hurt in an accident......JMHO...thinking like an attorney... ...I hate when I do that..!!!.. ....Dennis
I wondered the same thing, Dennis, but found that simply is not the case - they are willing to install seat belts almost where ever we want them.
..Although to your point about 'speaking like an attorney': I'm sure when the time comes for them to actually do the installation, they'll probably make me sign a big 'disclaimer' form, freeing them from any liability should anything bad happen..
Will
A dealership will probably install seat belts anywhere it is possible to do so. When we did our initial walk thru on our new coach...the dealer pointed out all the stickers near all seating and even the bed "This seat not for use while in motion"...a CYA they said to release thier liability. Therefore since none of the back seat belts meet DOT standards...you can and will use them at your own risk and good judgement.
One thing I might add...recently spoke to a woman who suggested not putting children (even in car seats or booster seats) at the dinette. She said in the event of a sudden stop or swerve little ones can hit the table, break teeth, cause head injuries, damage organs, etc. I know the kids love to sit at the table to play games or color but in light of that common sense scenario issue. I would belt the kiddies on the couch and let the adults take the dinette seats. You can add lap activities and save the table for when you are not rolling.
As another posters stated...no seat behind the 2 front seats are guarnateed totally safe so user beware.
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willald
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sowego wrote:One thing I might add...recently spoke to a woman who suggested not putting children (even in car seats or booster seats) at the dinette. She said in the event of a sudden stop or swerve little ones can hit the table, break teeth, cause head injuries, damage organs, etc. I know the kids love to sit at the table to play games or color but in light of that common sense scenario issue.
I've read that, too, and fully understand those dangers.
I think, the dangers of the dinette you are referring to, apply mostly for smaller children. Thats part of why we never considered trading up, until our children are bigger and out of car seats.
If kids can't sit at the dinette, and in many cases can't sit in the seat behind the passenger, you're basically left with many MHs with nowhere for kids to sit but one couch.
That seems crazy and really wrong when you think about it: We're talking about a 36' long, 20,500 lb RV, and the ONLY seating you can use for kids is ONE couch, putting them next to each other where they're prone to fight, pick at each other, etc? I thought MHs were supposed to be so much nicer when on the road??? If thats truly the case (that kids can only ride on one couch), then IMO you are much, much better off in a (much less expensive!) towable RV and tow vehicle. Here again, thats part of why we have not considered trading up until we thoughht the kids were old enough that dinette seating was not as much of a danger.
Quote:As another posters stated...no seat behind the 2 front seats are guarnateed totally safe so user beware.
Yep, I know. I think when you buy a MH, you just have to accept that in return for all the convenience and comfort it offers, the tradeoff is that you are giving up a good bit of safety for everyone but the driver and passenger. 'Tis one of the main reasons we never considered trading up until in the last several months.
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Noel
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Hopefully my question is not considered thread-jacking, but........we have a swivel recliner behind the passenger seat. It is not bolted down to the floor and could present a problem if I have to jam the brakes.
The chair has a hoop base and I tried www.glastop.com for their chair clamp, but......they are out and can't find a new supplier.
Guess I could buy two hefty U-bolts and an underfloor plate and tie it down with nuts and bolts.
Does anyone know of a chair clamp? Quick release type would be preferred.
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dons2346
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Hard to take a good snooze in a barrel chair
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