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RedRocket204

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Posted: 01/17/12 12:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

4x4ord wrote:

I wonder if the non FX 4 SRW 4x4 Crew Cab diesels are 11,500.GVWR On my window sticker the 11500 gvwr package is listed as though it is part of the FX4 package.


I do not believe the FX4 package has anything to do with if the truck is 11,500 or not. I seem to recall the standard 4x4 package, F350 SRW 6.7L CC LB, having 11,500 too.

IIRC, on the SD '11 brochure, the FX4 package has skid plates, off-road hill descent, Rancho labeled Motorcraft round tubes disguised as shocks and a nifty FX4 sticker (Really, unless you want the off-road hill descent, the FX4 package is a joke as the skid plates can be bought aftermarket).

I do have the camper package which has the heavier front springs and rear sway bar.


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RedRocket204 wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

I wonder if the non FX 4 SRW 4x4 Crew Cab diesels are 11,500.GVWR On my window sticker the 11500 gvwr package is listed as though it is part of the FX4 package.


I do not believe the FX4 package has anything to do with if the truck is 11,500 or not. I seem to recall the standard 4x4 package, F350 SRW 6.7L CC LB, having 11,500 too.

IIRC, on the SD '11 brochure, the FX4 package has skid plates, off-road hill descent, Rancho labeled Motorcraft round tubes disguised as shocks and a nifty FX4 sticker (Really, unless you want the off-road hill descent, the FX4 package is a joke as the skid plates can be bought aftermarket).

I do have the camper package which has the heavier front springs and rear sway bar.



...and you would be correct. The F350 SRW truck comes in a couple of GVW's over 11000 pounds depending on cab configuration. The 10,000 GVW option is a separate line item and is no additional cost. It is solely available to provide a truck with a 10,000 GVW for wheel tax purposes in states that charge a premium for GVW's above that weight.

The only difference in the truck is the GVW sticker...

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First on the differential I'm think I should get the 3.73 electronic locking option rather than the non-limited slip or the limited slip version. Am I right?


Back to one of your original questions. I would recommend the locking option as it is more reliable and less prone to problems as the limited slip version.JMHO

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ricatic wrote:

RedRocket204 wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

I wonder if the non FX 4 SRW 4x4 Crew Cab diesels are 11,500.GVWR On my window sticker the 11500 gvwr package is listed as though it is part of the FX4 package.


I do not believe the FX4 package has anything to do with if the truck is 11,500 or not. I seem to recall the standard 4x4 package, F350 SRW 6.7L CC LB, having 11,500 too.

IIRC, on the SD '11 brochure, the FX4 package has skid plates, off-road hill descent, Rancho labeled Motorcraft round tubes disguised as shocks and a nifty FX4 sticker (Really, unless you want the off-road hill descent, the FX4 package is a joke as the skid plates can be bought aftermarket).

I do have the camper package which has the heavier front springs and rear sway bar.



...and you would be correct. The F350 SRW truck comes in a couple of GVW's over 11000 pounds depending on cab configuration. The 10,000 GVW option is a separate line item and is no additional cost. It is solely available to provide a truck with a 10,000 GVW for wheel tax purposes in states that charge a premium for GVW's above that weight.

The only difference in the truck is the GVW sticker...

Regards


I find that interesting. It also goes to show how useless a GVWR number can be when trying to determine your trucks towing and carrying capacity. In most jurisdictions the law looks at tire and axle ratings and I am beginning to understand why. Anyone know why the Ford brochure states that the F350 SRW rear axle is rated for 7250 lbs and my door sticker says 7000?


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Your specific truck may have come with lower rated tires and or suspension.What Ford or any other manufacturer says is their axle rating has nothing to do with what the axle is actually capable of carrying.
The trucks frame, tires and suspension capability as determined by the manufacture are usually lower than what the axle manufacturer states.
For example the Ford 350SRW uses a 10.5" Sterling axle,Visteon who makes the axle says it is capable of 9750lbs.
My DRW uses a Dana 80, my sticker says 9000lbs, Dana says it can carry 11000lbs, but Ford doesn't think my truck can handle that weight.


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skyhammer wrote:

Your specific truck may have come with lower rated tires and or suspension.What Ford or any other manufacturer says is their axle rating has nothing to do with what the axle is actually capable of carrying.
The trucks frame, tires and suspension capability as determined by the manufacture are usually lower than what the axle manufacturer states.
For example the Ford 350SRW uses a 10.5" Sterling axle,Visteon who makes the axle says it is capable of 9750lbs.
My DRW uses a Dana 80, my sticker says 9000lbs, Dana says it can carry 11000lbs, but Ford doesn't think my truck can handle that weight.


So we know that the engine, transmission, frame front axle and brakes are the same whether your talking F250 SRW or F350 dually. The rear axle alone is capable of handling very close to the entire F250's GVWR So the only limiting components on the 3/4 ton are the tires and the rear suspension. The rear tires are rated for 7500 lbs. So based on that kind of logic one could take his F250 throw some good air bags on it he should be good to go - right up to a pin weight of about 3500 lbs.

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a_flyfisher wrote:

I ordered a 2011 DRW 6.7L F350 King Ranch last spring, and after getting a price that was nearly as low from one dealer, I offered to split the 3% holdback with the second dealer, and the sales manager agreed to my offer. I gave them my x-plan PIN, and they sold the truck to me for 1 1/2% below dealer invoice (plus applicable incentives, of course). I suggest that you don't ask dealers for bids. Make them an offer and see if they accept it.


I suggest you go back to the dealer and ask for a refund. X-plan is 4% below dealer invoice.


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4x4ord wrote:

skyhammer wrote:

Your specific truck may have come with lower rated tires and or suspension.What Ford or any other manufacturer says is their axle rating has nothing to do with what the axle is actually capable of carrying.
The trucks frame, tires and suspension capability as determined by the manufacture are usually lower than what the axle manufacturer states.
For example the Ford 350SRW uses a 10.5" Sterling axle,Visteon who makes the axle says it is capable of 9750lbs.
My DRW uses a Dana 80, my sticker says 9000lbs, Dana says it can carry 11000lbs, but Ford doesn't think my truck can handle that weight.


So we know that the engine, transmission, frame front axle and brakes are the same whether your talking F250 SRW or F350 dually. The rear axle alone is capable of handling very close to the entire F250's GVWR So the only limiting components on the 3/4 ton are the tires and the rear suspension. The rear tires are rated for 7500 lbs. So based on that kind of logic one could take his F250 throw some good air bags on it he should be good to go - right up to a pin weight of about 3500 lbs.


Actually I think that once you option the camper package on a F-250 you get the same rear spring pack as the F-350 SRW. At that point the only REAL difference is what the sticker on the door says.


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agesilaus, if you would like a Ford X plan pin number I have one. Send me a PM.


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agesilaus,

I'm in the same boat as you are (though not sure of brand yet) and will be ordering mine in March. If you are sure of the single wheel the camper package is a worthwhile investment. Also, stay away from the 20's; heavy and expensive to replace (though the 275/18's aren't exactly a bargain). The 350 will take care of any capacity issues you may have. Another option would be the upfitter switches; never know what you'll need it for, but glad you'll have it when you figure it out. As for diff option; are you pulling that trailer off orad or to the beach a lot? The E-locker is best. However, if you pull mostly highway and into improved sites the LS will a better choice; no driver involvement and fewer things to break. I didn't think an LS was available on the SW, just the dualies.

If it were my truck I would also get the hitch prep package, rapid heat, gate step, cable lock and the FX4 package (skid plates-lots of trash on 95/295, and better shocks; hearing bad reports on stock shocks failing early due to trucks weight).

Which dealers are you working with? Garber here. Which one's told you that long for a Ram? Garber told me 6-8 weeks, but the Cummins site is all over the place for delivery dates, so that may be valid.

* This post was edited 01/18/12 08:38am by norfla71 *


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