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wcbass

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Posted: 07/29/10 07:45am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Since this bear or bears were attacking tents, it seems as if it has learned to associate people/tents with food. These victims may have followed all the food storage rules, but what about the people who were on these campsites before them? Park Rangers have got to get serious about enforcing the food storage rules...start fining violators big time & escorting them out of the park or forest. I've worked in campgrounds inside Yellowstone for a few years. We tell the campers over & over to keep a clean site...most do, but some don't. Until the officials get into the violator's wallet, some folks will never learn.


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Posted: 07/29/10 08:54am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm so sad about this event. I am grateful to (finally) have a hard sided trailer after 40+ years of camping.

However, I am always nervous, even when walking around camp, going to the potty, or hiking trails. What I've noticed is that some Ranger Districts are very vigilant about enforcement, and others are noticeably absent. While camping near Granite Creek outside of Hoback Junction, WY., the Jackson District Ranger enforced and ticketed several times a day-even for leaving out action packers that contained no food and or for leaving out toiletries. We recently camped in the Targhee area-an area known for "problem bears" and saw no rangers, but saw lots of messy campers-with food, barbecues, and******left everywhere. For me, this made me very nervous walking around the campground.

We once camped on Lake Coeur d'Alene and had our next door neighbor put a huge coffee can of bacon grease (we could smell it) on their steps-they were snippy when we pointed out their folly-and they left the grease on their steps. Sure enough,they had a bear come in that tore at their door and ate the grease. Luckily, they ended up getting evicted by Rangers for their stupidity.

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Posted: 07/29/10 08:57am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

One more thing, a recent attack in Utah that left a boy dead was due to the fact that they chose a camp spot where messy people had been previously-apparently the bears had been habituated that this was a great spot to eat leftovers. The reason I mention this is because it is worth knowing whether or not the rangers in the area are vigilant or relaxed about rules. In this case the family sued the Forest Service claiming they had knowledge about the problem bear and their lack of enforcement. I don't know if they won.

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Posted: 07/29/10 11:43am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Steveo35 wrote:

FloraBama wrote:

This is a good lesson for all of us that camp in Bear country. You just never know what is learking in the dark so be prepared. National Parks now allow firearms for concealed permit holders in many states and a "bear gone wild" is a good reason to carry.


As a gun owner, I'm always in favor of discharging a firearm in a campground.


PLEASE...Let's NOT turn this into a gun thread!

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I posted elsewhere, authorities have captured the bear that they believe to be responsible, and 2 of her 3 yearling cubs.

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I just saw on the local news that the woman that was attacked was from Londaon Ontario about 3 hours west of me. She was interviewed & appeared in good spirits.


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revrnd wrote:

I just saw on the local news that the woman that was attacked was from Londaon Ontario about 3 hours west of me. She was interviewed & appeared in good spirits.
If you survived a bear attack, you would be in good spirits also, because there was a very good chance you would be joining the spirits.

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Seems like cheap security if your gonna be in bear country alot.

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We have been in Glacier NP for the last week. Saw two grizzlies - got great shots (from the truck) of the south end of north bound bears! Couple trails closed due to bear activity. Have seen bear scat right next to trails (none still steaming as we saw on a trail in Alaska once!).

Have discussions with Rangers here. Carry bear spray if you are hiking off main trails or not with at least one other person. Talk a lot. The bears identify voices with humans and, in general, unless they feel threatened, are startled (like coming around a corner) or protecting their cubs they SHOULD not be an issue.

Forget bear bells per the Rangers. Apparently research has shown they identify those as sounds of nature and not something humans shelled out good money for.

I pass that along for what it is worth.

Off to Canada in the morning. Bears there too.

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Posted: 07/31/10 07:26am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Forget bear bells per the Rangers.


Yes, the bells are very hard for the bears to digest ...

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