msmith1199

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This should be pretty interesting now that they are back like this. Last year I don't recall ever hearing Jr say anything about opening his own bike building operation. I wonder why all the sudden he is? I bet this is a made for TV type thing. The TV people encouraged it so they could still have the conflict and still keep the show based around bike building. Sr and Jr both are going to make a ton of money off of this. Sr being disgusted with it is all part of the act. But hey, looks like Vinny is coming back too. He had his own bike operation going. TLC must have made him a real good deal to come back. He was the most liked person on the show and the show took a ratings hit when he left.
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I dunno. I've been a motorcyclist since 1965. Currently I have two, a '67 Matchless 750cc G15 CS Scrambler (Norton twin engine in a Matchless frame) and a '78 Yamaha SR 500 (500cc single cylinder).
But I have never been able to see the attraction or appeal of a Chopper. I know different strokes for different folks...but when it comes to Choppers...I just don't get it.
Here's a couple of modern motorcycles that I would clear some space in my garage. They would fit quite nicely next to my Matchless and Yamaha SR.
Both are Triumphs...one is the Scrambler, the other is the Cafe Racer style.....Thruxton...which BTW, is a great name choice for this bike, just loaded with history and tradition.
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belfert

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I suspect Paul Jr. never made it much of anywhere with Paul Jr. Designs. His website when still operational didn't show many clients and seemed to be more about selling merchandise than his design work. I'll bet his cash flow dried up pretty good with the show gone.
No doubt the motorcyle shop is about TV, but I also suspect he decided to go back to something he could make money at. The Paul Jr Designs website has said coming soon for some time now so I suspect they are waiting for the new show to debut.
Paul Sr. probably needs the show to keep OCC alive. Hours of free advertising every week can't hurt. The new shop was completed at the wrong time considering the economy.
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msmith1199

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belfert wrote: I suspect Paul Jr. never made it much of anywhere with Paul Jr. Designs. His website when still operational didn't show many clients and seemed to be more about selling merchandise than his design work. I'll bet his cash flow dried up pretty good with the show gone.
But wasn't his design work all about selling merchandise?
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ol Bombero-JC

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lesmore49 wrote: I dunno. I've been a motorcyclist since 1965. Currently I have two, a '67 Matchless 750cc G15 CS Scrambler (Norton twin engine in a Matchless frame) and a '78 Yamaha SR 500 (500cc single cylinder).
But I have never been able to see the attraction or appeal of a Chopper. I know different strokes for different folks...but when it comes to Choppers...I just don't get it.
Here's a couple of modern motorcycles that I would clear some space in my garage. They would fit quite nicely next to my Matchless and Yamaha SR.
Both are Triumphs...one is the Scrambler, the other is the Cafe Racer style.....Thruxton...which BTW, is a great name choice for this bike, just loaded with history and tradition.
Triumph Motorcycles
Bucket M/C list:
Vincent Black Shadow
Ariel Square Four
BSA GoldStar (500)
There are a few others, but those are my "Big Three" 
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(Still Have the Triumph/s - but a Cheney, Metisse, or Champion frame would be nice for my spare engine!
Oh yeah - always wanted to do a Truimph 500 twin in a Greeves leading link frame/chassis.)
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lesmore49

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ol Bombero-JC wrote: lesmore49 wrote: I dunno. I've been a motorcyclist since 1965. Currently I have two, a '67 Matchless 750cc G15 CS Scrambler (Norton twin engine in a Matchless frame) and a '78 Yamaha SR 500 (500cc single cylinder).
But I have never been able to see the attraction or appeal of a Chopper. I know different strokes for different folks...but when it comes to Choppers...I just don't get it.
Here's a couple of modern motorcycles that I would clear some space in my garage. They would fit quite nicely next to my Matchless and Yamaha SR.
Both are Triumphs...one is the Scrambler, the other is the Cafe Racer style.....Thruxton...which BTW, is a great name choice for this bike, just loaded with history and tradition.
Triumph Motorcycles
Bucket M/C list:
Vincent Black Shadow I know a guy who has a Vincent 1000cc, not a Black Shadow though. I have a tin pressing of the old Vincent Black Shadow advert in my garage. "World's Fastest Motorcycle, Not brag, fact." I'm paraphrasing.
Ariel Square Four Quite a bike. There were a couple out here..unusual to look at...4 cylinders in a square.
BSA GoldStar (500) I always wanted a BSA Goldstar. Closest I came to it was my SR 500.
There are a few others, but those are my "Big Three"
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(Still Have the Triumph/s - but a Cheney, Metisse, or Champion frame would be nice for my spare engine! Me too...I wouldn't mind a nice Triumph 500 or 650 twin in one of these frames.
Oh yeah - always wanted to do a Truimph 500 twin in a Greeves leading link frame/chassis.) I've seen them in England. On my bucket list would be '60's CZ 250 twin and 360 twin piper scramblers.
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msmith1199 wrote: This should be pretty interesting now that they are back like this. Last year I don't recall ever hearing Jr say anything about opening his own bike building operation. I wonder why all the sudden he is? I bet this is a made for TV type thing. The TV people encouraged it so they could still have the conflict and still keep the show based around bike building. Sr and Jr both are going to make a ton of money off of this. Sr being disgusted with it is all part of the act. But hey, looks like Vinny is coming back too. He had his own bike operation going. TLC must have made him a real good deal to come back. He was the most liked person on the show and the show took a ratings hit when he left.
I don't think it was part of the original plan when he left OCC, but once Sr. ended last season (or TLC cancelled - not sure which), there was immediate talk about Jr. picking it up, getting Vince and Nub back. I guess they've been filming since.
It doesn't matter what he tried - Jr. is a bike builder and that's what he's best at. Forget about designing BBQs for Coleman.
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dieharder wrote: msmith1199 wrote: This should be pretty interesting now that they are back like this. Last year I don't recall ever hearing Jr say anything about opening his own bike building operation. I wonder why all the sudden he is? I bet this is a made for TV type thing. The TV people encouraged it so they could still have the conflict and still keep the show based around bike building. Sr and Jr both are going to make a ton of money off of this. Sr being disgusted with it is all part of the act. But hey, looks like Vinny is coming back too. He had his own bike operation going. TLC must have made him a real good deal to come back. He was the most liked person on the show and the show took a ratings hit when he left.
I don't think it was part of the original plan when he left OCC, but once Sr. ended last season (or TLC cancelled - not sure which), there was immediate talk about Jr. picking it up, getting Vince and Nub back. I guess they've been filming since.
It doesn't matter what he tried - Jr. is a bike builder and that's what he's best at. Forget about designing BBQs for Coleman.
Nub was actually the real talent in most of those bikes. Sure there were some interesting things in the design, but it was the paint jobs that made most of the bikes stand out. Nub did most of those, at least the better ones.
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msmith1199 wrote:
Nub was actually the real talent in most of those bikes. Sure there were some interesting things in the design, but it was the paint jobs that made most of the bikes stand out. Nub did most of those, at least the better ones.
The paintwork is very good, but the design detail and chrome really is as good or better. Before I had the chance to see the bikes in person I thought the same thing.
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Harley seems to be waning in popularity and perhaps the custom stuff will follow close behind in a failing market.
Just in the process of getting rid of my 01 Harley Ultra with only 15,000 miles on it. Being the fourth and last Harley I've owned in a lifetime of biking starting in 59 of owning a bunch of Brit bikes and campaigned a "Triton" (Bonneville engine souped to the gills in a featherbed frame with Ciarrianni forks) along with other "Exotics" (junk) like a James, Bultaco's, Maico's and other stuff. I can attest to the Gold Star being everything it was intended to be along with having ridden a Vincent Black Shadow AND a series "C" Lighning (awesome machines that would startle the c*** out of any Nippon rider today) and would love an old MV Augusta (especially with "dustbin fairing") to be gracing my shop.
Les: Triumph Baltimore actually forced Triumph to build or modified them on arrival,(early/mid-seventies if memory serves) a quasi chopper with the tall "sissy rail" chrome seat extension along with 14" riser bars; god-awful things that were a knee-jerk response to U.S. market demands at the time. Fortunately any evidence of these has long since decayed or was erased when successive owners returned them to stock form.
Thruxton fairings, pipes etc.. oooh how we lusted after that stuff!
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