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Posted: 07/10/14 02:57pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

As a Canadian, a gun owner and the forum moderator, let me offer my perspective.

Discussions around the rules and regulations as well as personal experiences by RVers or campers concerning bringing weapons into or through Canada are fine and are actually a good idea for the benefit of visitors to Canada.

Where it comes off the rails for me as a moderator is when the discussion de-generates into either pro and against weapons or gun control and away from a camping or RVing focus.

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Posted: 08/22/14 02:33pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

aces-n-eights wrote:

I do not agree with the comments here that basically stateā€¦ "I had no problems that required a firearm, therefore you won't need one either." Only YOU can decide if YOU want to have a firearm on your trip to Alaska.

I have been charged by a brown bear. I was a nanosecond from firing at the bear when he veered off his charge, about 20' away from me. One of the most frightening things that has happened to me, for sure!

I would suggest, if you want a firearm, to ship one to a gun store in Tok Alaska and pick it up on your way thru. Another option is to buy one here in Alaska and either sell it before you leave or ship it back home.

Obviously I hope you have no need whatsoever for a gun, and the odds are great that you will not need one.

Enjoy your trip! Alaska's a great place!
That's cool , no crime, or bear attacks. America could learn a lot from our northern friends.


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Posted: 08/23/14 08:20am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This is fresh off the press this morning of someone trying to bring a couple of hand guns across the line and he didn't make it. There isn't much as he just made a court appearance the other day, time will tell what happens to him
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Posted: 08/23/14 08:46am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

SideHillSoup wrote:

This is fresh off the press this morning of someone trying to bring a couple of hand guns across the line and he didn't make it. There isn't much as he just made a court appearance the other day, time will tell what happens to him
Gun smuggling
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And not just someone...but a Judge. Albeit a judge that quit after getting caught shop-lifting, but still..a judge. An X judge.

Probably rode a loud Harley too, nasty old man,


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Posted: 08/23/14 08:58am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Okay Free, You have heard and reasonably so about pets, booze and firearms so here is my take on customs. During the day I usually drive with very dark polaroid prescription glasses, when I approach the customs agent,and when I am sure he is looking at me I remove them and put on my clear ones. I look directly at the agent with all normally required paper, passport, vets certificate in hand and visible. I do not speak until spoken to and answer questions directly and with out any unnecessary talk. Mostly yes or no.

We try to the best of our ability to be in total compliance with the customs laws in all countries we visit. My DW has all our legal papers in a folder in the glove box and gets it out before we get to the agent. I get my license out but have never been asked to present it. Passports are almost always asked for going out and back in.

We are what the agents call "Plain White Bread", older, reasonable hair cuts, no facial tattoos and smiling, not false but sincerely like you're having fun and happy to be there. There have only been two times that we have been searched, both very mild, once my wife volunteered the information that she was glad to be back in the US because she just paid an very high price for one lime. Boarded and lime confiscated. It had a little California Grown sticker on it. The other time a Canadian Agent asked about firewood. Of course I had the butt end of some dimensional lumber for fire starting and told the agent I had firewood, gave him the keys for the cabinet and told him which one. He came back and gave me the keys and had a grin saying, you smart ass you know I mean wood with bark on it.

DW broke the rules after he waved us through and because it was a very remote crossing ask about a place to buy lunch and use a real restroom. He told us where he ate lunch and off we went.

There are lot of subtle things you can do to put the agents at ease and all have been posted here. The next thing you need to know and prepare for is a depository for the hundreds of photos you did not plan on taking. I've talked to several folks that "didn't take pictures" who loved finding out about Photobucket, Tinypics and Shutterfly. It is infective.

Have a great trip.


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Posted: 08/23/14 06:40pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

garyhaupt wrote:

SideHillSoup wrote:

This is fresh off the press this morning of someone trying to bring a couple of hand guns across the line and he didn't make it. There isn't much as he just made a court appearance the other day, time will tell what happens to him
Gun smuggling
Soup.



And not just someone...but a Judge. Albeit a judge that quit after getting caught shop-lifting, but still..a judge. An X judge.

Probably rode a loud Harley too, nasty old man,


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Gentlemen:

In looking at what I think are the appropriate Canadian regs, it looks like certain handguns are actually ok to carry into or through Canada provided the barrel is longer than 4-1/2 inches and the caliber is not prohibited. I know there are Canadians who do Cowboy shooting and travel to the US with the guns, and I presume they take them home. Customs has said most long guns are fine as long as declared and the fee paid.

I am thinking of revolvers with barrels in the 5" range, lever action rifles and double barrel or pump shotguns designed before about 1900.

It is simple for me to mail any guns as I have a valid address in Alaska and WA. Don't want to start any confrontation, just looking for clarity.
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Posted: 08/23/14 08:17pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Without looking it up, and based solely on what I have read here, handguns with very short barrels, are totally prohibited here. Handguns with longer barrels are permitted only for very specific & provable reasons, examples being a formal gun competition. Long guns & shotguns need the $50? permit and you have to convince the border agent that you are bringing it in for an appropriate reason. For bear protection in the Okanagan Valley may not be a good enough reason!


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Tee Jay wrote:


In looking at what I think are the appropriate Canadian regs, it looks like certain handguns are actually ok to carry into or through Canada provided the barrel is longer than 4-1/2 inches and the caliber is not prohibited. I know there are Canadians who do Cowboy shooting and travel to the US with the guns, and I presume they take them home. Customs has said most long guns are fine as long as declared and the fee paid.

I am thinking of revolvers with barrels in the 5" range, lever action rifles and double barrel or pump shotguns designed before about 1900.

It is simple for me to mail any guns as I have a valid address in Alaska and WA. Don't want to start any confrontation, just looking for clarity.
Terry


I have never seen an American traveler passing through Canada being allowed to transport a handgun in their vehicle. Folks that show up at customs are turned back and end up mailing/shipping the handgun. You can mail a handgun through the USPS from yourself to yourself without a FFL.


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Posted: 08/24/14 09:32am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You are safer in Canada then in many locales here in the states.
Guns to Canada
Leave your guns at home!


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Dick_B wrote:

You will pay a duty for the `well stocked liquor'. Bear spray may be a good investment but I'd buy it up there because we weren't allowed to carry ours into Canada.


Pepper spray (little can) isn't allowed, but bear spray (bigger can) is. Never had a problem with bear spray when crossing into Canada multiple times this summer on my Alaska trip. They'd ask if I had any and I declared it, then they'd ask if it was a large can or a small can and tell me the larger cans are allowed.

BTW, I didn't carry a gun and I did quite a it of hiking while there. Some may think I was crazy for doing so, but I was born and raised in Alaska and never had a problem.

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