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FreeIndeedJ836

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Posted: 06/29/14 10:20am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Considering heading to Alaska in our 45 foot coach. We will spend two months minimum if we go. Concerned about Canada's restrictive policies on firearms, dogs (we have 3), and alcohol (we are not heavy drinkers but do enjoy a variety of mixed drinks so we have a well stocked "liquor cabinet").

I don't feel comfortable traveling without the means of protecting ourselves and have always heard that carrying a gun in the Alaska wilderness is strongly suggested. However, I am not paranoid or an extremist on this...just like to be prepared in these crazy times.

We tow a full size pick up and have our Harley in the back. It is very solid and stable but is this too much to take over the highways heading North?

We would love to have another couple join us but I imagine it is unlikely to find people with as much flexibility and spontaneity as we have. However, if you read this and are intrigued...lets talk!

Any advice is welcome.


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Posted: 06/29/14 10:32am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You will pay a duty for the `well stocked liquor'. Bear spray may be a good investment but I'd buy it up there because we weren't allowed to carry ours into Canada.


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Posted: 06/29/14 10:34am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I totally understand your feelings on having a weapon on-board but do NOT, under ANY circumstances, try to bring it over the border into Canada! Each time I cross the border, I really get the 3rd degree from Canadian Customs officers. They will ask you the same thing, over and over again, only phrased just a bit different each time to throw you off in an attempt to get at the truth. I've often wondered if it's a consequence of having Idaho license plates.

You are driving to Alaska to enjoy yourselves, NOT to be sitting in a jail cell wondering how the Canadian legal system will treat you, just because you wanted a little "protection". Ain't worth it, my friend. Just some friendly advice.

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Posted: 06/29/14 10:39am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We did this trip 3 years ago and will most likely do it again. The only change is that we will most likely do it solo. Traveling in groups can lead to un-planned problems. We did the trip in a 33 ft fifth wheel we had at the time. A 45 foot MH is on the large side but not a deal breaker. A little advance planning will be needed as most rigs that size make it a little tight in some places but no impossible.

As far as guns are concerned, leave them home. You don't need them and will get into trouble entering Canada. If you feel you really need a firearm in Alaska, just buy one when you get there and then have it shipped home before you come back through Canada. Most all of the wild animals you will encounter want nothing to do with you.

There is plenty of liquor available in Canada. If you try and bring too much through they will charge you import duty.

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Posted: 06/29/14 10:46am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Leave weapons at home!
Get a certificate for your dogs showing vaccines and description of the dog. Little collar tags will not do.
Your liqueur should not be an issue if seals are broken. and you have a couple bottles. Remember to declare it!
Great time to go! Time is good for seeing much of the state.


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I received this same advice from a friend who tried it and got caught! Thanks for the advice because I am the type who sometimes "questions" stupid rules and might be tempted to break them. Not in this case however...I will follow the rules!

ParkCountry wrote:

I totally understand your feelings on having a weapon on-board but do NOT, under ANY circumstances, try to bring it over the border into Canada! Each time I cross the border, I really get the 3rd degree from Canadian Customs officers. They will ask you the same thing, over and over again, only phrased just a bit different each time to throw you off in an attempt to get at the truth. I've often wondered if it's a consequence of having Idaho license plates.

You are driving to Alaska to enjoy yourselves, NOT to be sitting in a jail cell wondering how the Canadian legal system will treat you, just because you wanted a little "protection". Ain't worth it, my friend. Just some friendly advice.


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Restrictive policies on dogs? Unless you're going to Ontario which has banned pitbulls there aren't many restrictions. Otherwise, a valid rabies certificate is all you need to cross the border. And you'll likely find campgrounds in Canada less concerned about specific breeds. In the north, it's pretty much assumed that you'll have a dog or two or three, or 40 - similar to the dog mushers. We always have our two with us and no issues.

We rarely travel with our firearms. If you're in a 45' motorhome you won't be in the wilderness too much, more likely in the more well-travelled routes where the wildlife usually isn't too much of an issue. Even when we're miles and miles into the bush, we haven't needed a firearm. Never been threatened other than by that one porcupine that got a bit too close for comfort. At our cabin, we often have bears strolling through the yard to the nearby creek -- they don't stop over at the cabin though because there's nothing here to attract them more than Mother Nature's menu.

Moose kill more people than bears, and you're more likely to have issues with the wildlife on the road in front of your motorhome than you are at night while you're sleeping.

People tow all sorts of things here, summer and winter. If you're doing so, plan to take your time on some of the rougher routes. Don't travel with a must-do schedule. Sometimes 100 miles can take 4 hours. Sit back and enjoy rather than try to make time.

There's much to see and do in the North. But if you're expecting the worst, then you will find it. If you're willing to adapt, go with the flow, laugh when times get tough/silly, then you'll be fine.


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BTW, if the border agents find an undeclared firearm in your RV, the RV can be seized. End of trip.

One of my husband's cousins tried to cross from WA into BC with a handgun hidden away in the back of his motorhome. He told us that he had forgotten it was there. His motorhome was seized by the authorities. It took some effort and payment of a substantial fine to get it back

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I've been here over 50 years and quit carrying a gun a long time ago. Even when out moose hunting, around bears all of the time, I quit taking my 44 a long time ago. It was always in the way. If you have anything less, the only thing it's good for might be to shoot yourself.

Haven't heard of any problems on dogs other than get their shots and have the papers. The biggest problem is trying to figure out which fruit is going to be banned which week. As for the booze, buy it in Canada or Alaska. Big deal.

As for the road just slow down on the frost heaves some. If you've been to Calif and made it over all of the joints on their cement roads, you can handle the AlCan.

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And if you have to have the weapons, fly them to a shop in Alaska. If you have a desire to have them with you at all times, you 'can' if they meet certain criteria. I am not going to even guess what those are, but I do know that a person can have handguns and long guns on board but let me tell you this...you reach for one and you going to jail. Yes, 'judged by 12, not carried by 6'...I don't know if that will hold here, unless of course they shoot first. And you still might be a guest at the crow-bar hotel.

As for dogs? and booze? all the info is already posted.



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