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ependydad

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Posted: 02/28/14 09:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Me Again wrote:

OK, I will address the first one. sabre 36QBOK from palomino

It states they use 6K axles, with a 14,666 GVWR. So it will be fully load on the axles at 12,000 and have around 2666 pin weight if maxed out. My guess is they use cheap no name ST tires. You should have a 1T SRW truck minimum to tow it.

Think about upgrading tires ASP. I would ask dealer to install Bridgestone Duravis R250's or no deal!

Chris


The 36QBOK is mandatory 7k axles. It does have approximately 2,300-2,500 pounds of pin weight. I opted for Maxxis m8008 tires when I upgraded mine after a nail + a bubble took 2 out.

It's a great camper and honestly, I'll definitely not buy local next time. My 2nd-closest "local" Sabre dealer is 145 miles from my house and a big fat zero. I've heard good things about RVW helping folks find service while they're on the road.

The 36QBOK is a great camper and a heck of a value for the money. While not cheap, it comes chock with standard features.

Here are some factory tour pictures for Sabre with a few 36QBOKs in the early stages of being built:
http://www.learntorv.com/2014/02/palomino-sabre-factory-tour-photos.html


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The prices you were quoted at the RV show must have been pretty good as I found, when shopping for my FW about 2 1/2 years ago, RV Wholesalers prices were $7,500 to $10,000 less than the closest dealer to our town. If your price was about what the difference is with shipping, then you should very seriously consider buying "local". We bought "local", dealer about 150 miles away rather than from RV Direct because, after they priced it, it was within $2,000 of the RV Direct price and I didn't have to drive clear out to Indiana and pick up the FW. Still have to drive 150 miles for dealer work, but do have an RV dealer 25 miles away since we are now out of warranty.

* This post was edited 02/28/14 02:31pm by jalichty *


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Can't say about your specific model but we have a 2012 Sabre 34RLQS and love it. Only a couple of very minor issues that I took care of myself. I think you would be hard pressed to find more trailer for the money....


2016 F-350 four door Lariat 4X4 long bed & 2012 Sabre 34RLQS...


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Reader1 wrote:

Sorry I don't have experience with these models. My first thought is to make certain that your tow vehicle can handle the weight of whatever you buy, not only the RV but fully loaded. Salesman will tell you you can pull anything. Since you are from Denver, you know pulling in the western mountains is a point to be considered. Read reviews but know that there are brand haters who have never owned one and pay more attention to the reviewers who have had experience with the ones you are looking at. Once you purchase read all the good advice on the importance of the walk-through and how to make that experience beneficial. Welcome to RVing, the memories and experiences you will have will enrich your lives in ways that you can not imagine. Safe travels!

Bought a F350 dually powerstroke last week to be sure the TV will handle any choice we wil get
Thanks for the advice

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Me Again wrote:

OK, I will address the first one. sabre 36QBOK from palomino

It states they use 6K axles, with a 14,666 GVWR. So it will be fully load on the axles at 12,000 and have around 2666 pin weight if maxed out. My guess is they use cheap no name ST tires. You should have a 1T SRW truck minimum to tow it.

Think about upgrading tires ASP. I would ask dealer to install Bridgestone Duravis R250's or no deal!

Chris

Thanks for the advice
I saw many 5th that have gvw of more than the total of the 2 axles limit
Truck is a f350 dually diesel

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Bionic Man wrote:

In an RV, the servicing dealer is at least as important as the RV you choose. At the end of the first year you are likely to have a punch list of repairs that is at least a page long.

We bought our first new RV in Casper, WY because we found a model we liked and the dealer in Denver was over priced. Warranty work became a royal PITA because the local dealer put us at the back of the list.

Our 2nd new purchase (the one we have now) was much better as I bought locally and the dealer would put me at the front of the list.

Maybe you are a DIY guy that will fix most of the little stuff yourself, but you will still need parts. Just my $.02.

I am thinking the same thing
but rvwholesaler advertise a nationwide network for maintenance

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MFL wrote:

OP has a new F350, that he should proudly have pictured on his profile page.

Chris, just getting by on axle weights, and cheapo tires is the norm. I'm sure you know the manufacturers always expect the truck to carry the weight difference. I do agree, it is a shame, especially with new RV prices.

It is hard to pick out a new trailer for someone else, but the OP is wise to ask about known problems, with his choices.

A good home town dealer is worth a little more.

Good luck on your purchase,

Jerry

Pictures added
You are correct that 2000 lbs are in the bed of the truck
Agreed on the local if it is only within 2 to $3000
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wandering1 wrote:

Why would it be the wrong RV?

As we never own one and don't know more than what we learned on the 20 or so visit at rv dealer and the hours i spent reading post on this forum

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One other thought here. Have you been in FWs or TTs before or are you jumping into this with no prior experience. If no experience, you might consider trying to find a way to camp in a FW for a little while to see what you do and don't like. Then, when you are looking for something to purchase, you could have a checklist of what you like and don't like to use as you are going through the outfits. I didn't do that when we bought our first FW, but we had camped with my father and mother-in-law for many years before taking the leap. We actually bought a "starter" FW and used it for 18 years before moving up in length, slides (had none on the first one) and weight. Have you towed before? Based on the truck you have, you probably have, but if not, it might also behoove you to hook up to something and tow to see what it's like. Those are pretty big units you are looking at so the towing experience, and backing and parking, may be something you will have to get use to. It's a big step and you don't want to get the "wrong" FW, but then, it's not the end of the world if you don't get the "right" one the first time. It might cost you some money to find out, after a year or so, that the one you bought wasn't the "one", but it won't be the end of the world, just a little setback.

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Posted: 03/01/14 09:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The Sabre looks like a good floor plan for a family 5vr and your TV will handle it with no problem. Good luck on your choice and happy camping.


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