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Deb and Ed M

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Posted: 11/03/13 06:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

LOL!!!! Travelnutz, we were probably at American about 3:30! Found a nice Jay Flight there! The problem with some of these lightweight 5ers is the lighter CCC. Enjoy your scooters! I told Ed we'll need to get him a bicycle - being a "car guy" he just groaned....

Ed and I will be at the lot fitst thing tomorrow morning to scrutinize the GS after studying the construction info you linked to. I do water quality sampling, so have a pretty good infrared thermometer and am hoping it can outline the extent of the water damage. We've got a price in mind that would be worth tearing an RV apart; otherwise, we'll start looking at some we found on Craig's List. We'll be 5er owners sooner or later...lol!!

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Ha ha ha, missed ya by only a few mintues. Maybe next time! Just the 2 girls manning the store for the last Sunday before the winter schedule kicks in. The girls play with our Siberian Husky we bring into the store as do the customers too. She's very popular!

The last cuple years only the Jayco Jay Flight trailers were redesigned and much better built and insulated and had more CCC. Before that the Jay Flight line was a very light weight and basically a warm summer use trailer only. Of course, the newer to higher the price too! Jayco does make a decent RV and they holdup quite well. Any RV can get a leak and if not caught fast, damage will soon occur.


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Posted: 11/04/13 03:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Well, a lot of people on this forum will think we're crazy - but we decided to bid on the Gulf Stream. The infrared thermometer clearly defined an area of delamination on the (fiberglass-walled) Holiday Rambler Savoy we liked (but now will avoid); but it didn't work so well with the Gulf Stream. We rapped on the walls everywhere - the only spot that's soft is the one we knew about from the start. I've watched all the videos on repairing rotted walls/ceilings/floors - and it doesn't look too scary (at least "wood" is the construction material I know the best....LOL!)

I'll know Wednesday night if the GS's owner is willing to take a financial beating ;-) Because that's the only way we'd buy it.

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I could have done the repairs for the 2000,00 but I sure wouldn't go the 5 k for the unit. Since you poked your finger through the wall, Im guessing the damage is more at that point and an indication that ther was no proper maintenance on a 2004 model. That's a lot of deferred maintenance time.

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I could have done the repairs for the 2000,00 but I sure wouldn't go the 5 k for the unit. Since you poked your finger through the wall, Im guessing the damage is more at that point and an indication that ther was no proper maintenance on a 2004 model. That's a lot of deferred maintenance time.

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My wife and I bought our first 5er the same way. It was a 2001 Prowler with a soft spot in the left rear near the pantry closet. Water had come in through the outside corner that had opened up. We bough it because it was nearly 1/3 off due the water damage and I figured "how bad could it be" I fixed it the following winter and was stunned when I pulled it apart. All the kitchen had to be removed. We replaced the last four feet of the floor and had to rebuild the last three feet of the wooden frame of the floor. Money wise the repair was cheap. Including a new floor I had under $300 in the repair. But I also had over 100 hours labor in it. In the end we ended up selling the camper because I could not trust it. For me, camping is all about relaxing. I can't relax when I'm worried about what is going to fall apart next.

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Deb and Ed M wrote:

Well, a lot of people on this forum will think we're crazy - but we decided to bid on the Gulf Stream. The infrared thermometer clearly defined an area of delamination on the (fiberglass-walled) Holiday Rambler Savoy we liked (but now will avoid); but it didn't work so well with the Gulf Stream. We rapped on the walls everywhere - the only spot that's soft is the one we knew about from the start. I've watched all the videos on repairing rotted walls/ceilings/floors - and it doesn't look too scary (at least "wood" is the construction material I know the best....LOL!)

I'll know Wednesday night if the GS's owner is willing to take a financial beating ;-) Because that's the only way we'd buy it.


Well good luck! Keep us in the loop with pictures etc when you tear into it, as it will be educational to all, as sooner or later many of us will face this issue.

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Thanks, Re and Cheryl - the "good thing" in this 5er is that the damage is in the bunk area. If I have to tear up the floor, I don't have much to move out of the way except the bed frame. The area under the full-sized bunk is currently carpeted and is the storage area where we'd put the outdoor carpet/chairs/etc, so I would tear out the carpet and put in linoleum anyway.

Me Again, as we look at other 5ers, we're astounded at how many have problems, but then again, that's probably why their owners got rid of them? Sometimes, leaks will be glaringly obvious (especially with the fiberglass walls) - but even then, the '09 Holiday Rambler Savoy we looked at looked fine. Until Ed noticed that the keys had an inventory tag for a large local dealer - and he said "Why wouldn't they sell something this nice and relatively new, on their own lot? There's something wrong, somewhere..." and we finally found the rotted back corner.

Granted, when you're poking around auction lots, you're dealing with the "cesspool of vehicles" to start with.... but when you're paying 60% less than a dealer's lot and you're not expecting to find a gem to start with - you can do alright, with a heavy dose of Due Diligence.

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Posted: 11/06/13 06:47pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Well, the journey continues. The auction is over and we weren't high bidder; we quit at $4300. Maybe we'll kick ourselves later when we buy something, then discover the hidden problem rather than having bought the known problem. Of course, we're hoping to find someone's beloved 5er with NO problems.... as they say: stay tuned!

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Posted: 11/06/13 07:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Do you know what bid $$$ took it?

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