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j-d

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Posted: 10/11/13 09:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Gross COMBINED Weight Rating (GCWR) is 20,000 if this V10 is in an E450 (wuth a Four) chassis. Ours is and we tow a Nissan Frontier that's a little heavier than a Ranger. The Frontier weighs about 1000 more than the Mitsu Mighty Max (like a Dodge D50) that it replaced and we can feel the difference. But that weight in no way incapacitates that V10.
Toad is an "odd" weight, because there's no tongue load but it can still try to "wag" the back of the RV. It's carrying all its own weight, but should have a braking system. To use our coach (signature) as an example, its brakes are rated at its Gross Vehicle Weight (GVWR) which is 14500, NOT the CCWR of 20000.
If your chassis is E350, the gearing's a little taller. Since tires are same as E450, the E350 will labor more and bog a little sooner (wanting to downshift) on a grade/with more load.
Also, if you don't have TorqShift (the 5-speed with Tow/Haul not simply OD Off), it'll probably want to downshift more often than the 5-speed (known as TorqShift).

* This post was edited 10/11/13 09:44am by j-d *


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pucamping, its a 4.0, 5 speed manual 2WD, crew cab. max GW is around 4700 lbs I think it says, so as a 1/2T rated vehicle it will be up there. The 93 on rangers were/are heavier than the models before them.

The guy I got the MH from gave me the 6000lb tow assy, is having the braking assy removed from his tow vehicle and is going to send to me in a couple of days.

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Posted: 10/11/13 07:45pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I had a 1997 Ranger, but I traded it in for a 2009 smart car when I started RVing. A 2-seater for a 2-seater. The difference for me was weight.

The smart car has a curb weight of 1,806 lbs (US). Less weight = less workload for the motorhome.


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Posted: 10/11/13 11:14pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hank85713 wrote:

pucamping, its a 4.0, 5 speed manual 2WD, crew cab. max GW is around 4700 lbs I think it says, so as a 1/2T rated vehicle it will be up there. The 93 on rangers were/are heavier than the models before them.

The guy I got the MH from gave me the 6000lb tow assy, is having the braking assy removed from his tow vehicle and is going to send to me in a couple of days.


My 95 was a 3.0 5spd 2WD reg cab long bed. Had a color matched snug top (cayman pearl) and carpet kit in it. Doesn't seem like it was that heavy, oh well. It was my first "rv" in that I went camping and slept in it. I owned it for 13 years and put 275k trouble free miles on it, it was a good truck. Finally got rid of it when my needs changed, I needed something that would reliably get me 105mi RT to work with good gas mileage. Several thousand worth of work was stacking up and it just did not seem prudent to make a major investment in it. (new cat converter, rear end, seats, seat belts, gauges, possible engine work, clutch, etc). I wish I had room to keep it here, but my house and property are small, and with 3 kids I have no time to tinker.


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Posted: 10/12/13 08:21am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The tow assembly may be 6000#. But check the rec. conn. On the MH. See what it is rated at.


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You mentioned that it's a little doggy in the hills. Adding the Ranger will slow it down, but not drastically so. Like others have said, most of the time you won't know it's there.

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PUcamper, I know what you are saying. I drove this ranger 150miles a day RT, and it has proven to be pretty much unstoppable. Currently has about 320K on it only problems ever were the trans which was bad from original owner. Normal maintenance is required on all vehicles. I installed elec windows, seats and mirrors, went to 15 inch wheels. Just did head gaskets (thought I had blown one) which it turns out it did not need, it was the water pump manifold to block gasket gone bad! Anyhow its a great truck, and I dont want to get another vehicle in the yard. 4 MC's and 4 cars trucks plus 2 TTs is a bit much already. all are lic and ready to go (mc's will take a little more but they are all ride able).


BTW got a reply from 5 star tuning already, will give him a try in near future. Supposed to help with mileage but improve throttle response and transmission shift points. we will see.

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If you go with a Five-Star Tune, please let us know how the vehicle changes. Particularly if you have the Four-Speed Electronic Shift transmission 4R100.

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j-d will do, but I have the late model 5R110 I think it is transmission. Its just like the one in my F350 with the tow haul in the button not the overdrive on/off.

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We just got back from our initial 9 day "break in trip" pulling a 2013 Subaru Crosstrek (about 3200 lbs) with our 2012 Forrest River Lexington 283ts on a E450 V-10 chassies. Put a bit over 1000 miles towing thru mountains of N. Carolina and Tenn. Never had an issue with the set-up. Roadmaster Stearling bars and Blue Ox base plate, Ready Brake brake system.
Had no problem with interstate speeds, seemed to have a "sweet spot" between 60 to 65 mph on the flats running about 2600 rpm. Up grades it will rev up but it was no problem holding speed. Going down the tow-haul kicks in and you really don't have to touch the brakes. Back roads where speed limit is lower, it was a pleasure to drive. Only thing I want to do is replace the steering damper with a heavier unit like the Roadmaster.
Haven't weighed it as it's just wife and I, one dog, and we tend to travel light.
Grumpy

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