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Mik68

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I think that you should do an online search regarding taxes and types of units available. You stated that 2 families are involved. So depending upon your numbers, are we talking about one or two units? If 6 or more are involved, you fiver is out of the running, as you now need 2 trucks. Having people ride in the FW while in tow is a BAD idea, and in many states illegal. A TT type trailer pulled by a Suburban would be ideal if you have more than 6 in your party. As stated, some states have a much higher taxing rate on everything from food, gas, and yes vehicles. Doing a pre flight search could result in many $$$ savings. And remember, what you purchase, you will probable have to sell prior to your return home. So buying a NEW unit might not be your best bet, as you probably will take a big $$$ hit the first few years of ownership on anything new. Purchasing a tow vehicle for the FW is also tricky. You want a truck large enough to properly tow or haul your unit safely. I still think that a proper TT will fit your needs, and with the proper tow vehicle It all depends upon your 2 family numbers. We on occasion have encountered as many a 10 people traveling, camping, in a bus conversion unit. Enjoy your stay in the USA.


Talk about jumping to conclusions [emoticon] We have done extensive research so far so only need answers from my OP. But FYI We will be buying 2 separate set up's, so you can rest easy, there is no way we would allow anyone to ride in a FW. We are also shipping the FW home with us & maybe even the truck we tow it with. And yes we've researched all the conversions necessary.

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I think Texas for both 5th wheel and truck. You will certainly get a better deal on the truck in Texas, probably on the 5th wheel.

....and Texas is a relatively low stress place to learn how your new RV and truck handle. (Not Dallas or Houston....get out of there ASAP, but lots of wide state highways with nice RV parks scattered throughout the state).


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We live in Texas, but we are about to pick up our 40ft FW in Michigan cause we can save over $10,000. 52 vs 63k. One dealer, Lakeshore RV, mentioned that they have multiple people fly in and pickup up truck and RV in one go. They help drive them to the Ford (Chevy, Dodge) dealer to get the truck and then pickup the RV. It might be worth talking to Bob.

a couple hours from Chicago, which could work as a landing destination.

Michigan sales tax is 6%, Texas is 6.25%, so not much different

* This post was edited 09/09/13 06:48am by sdetweil *


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PA12DRVR wrote:

I think Texas for both 5th wheel and truck. You will certainly get a better deal on the truck in Texas, probably on the 5th wheel.

....and Texas is a relatively low stress place to learn how your new RV and truck handle. (Not Dallas or Houston....get out of there ASAP, but lots of wide state highways with nice RV parks scattered throughout the state).


This is a very good point re; getting to know my RV & truck in Texas over LA, also pointed out by AUwing. Thanks guy's

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We live in Texas, but we are about to pick up our 40ft FW in Michigan cause we can save over $10,000. 52 vs 63k. One dealer, Lakeshore RV, mentioned that they have multiple people fly in and pickup up truck and RV in one go. They help drive them to the Ford (Chevy, Dodge) dealer to get the truck and then pickup the RV. It might be worth talking to Bob.

a couple hours from Chicago, which could work as a landing destination.

Michigan sales tax is 6%, Texas is 6.25%, so not much different


Wow, that's a huge saving. I have noticed good prices & that a lot of people on this forum buy in Michigan. What happens if the street address we can use for registration & insurance etc. are in Texas? Can we get temporary plates to get back to Texas?

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If you have any flexibility in your itinerary, it might be worthwhile considering flying in to Portland, Oregon. There are no sales or vehicle transfer taxes in Oregon and RV licensing fees are modest, based upon length of trailer. Oregon registration is also good for two years, so if you buy a used RV, odds are good that it will have a year or so left on the tags. Vehicles don't typically have any rust issues here, so it's easy to find late model used trucks in good condition. It's possible the money you save in taxes and fees could more than pay for travel costs through some of America's most beautiful country while on the way to your destination. Just a thought.....


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Alley Fox wrote:

If you have any flexibility in your itinerary, it might be worthwhile considering flying in to Portland, Oregon. There are no sales or vehicle transfer taxes in Oregon and RV licensing fees are modest, based upon length of trailer. Oregon registration is also good for two years, so if you buy a used RV, odds are good that it will have a year or so left on the tags. Vehicles don't typically have any rust issues here, so it's easy to find late model used trucks in good condition. It's possible the money you save in taxes and fees could more than pay for travel costs through some of America's most beautiful country while on the way to your destination. Just a thought.....


I knew this about Oregon having no sales tax etc. but, being that I am not a US resident... I had also heard it was one of the hardest states even for a non state US resident to purchase in Oregon. Proof of residency is paramount. So to register a vehicle & RV would have to be done in the state you have residency. There for paying the taxes etc in that state.

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sdetweil wrote:

We live in Texas, but we are about to pick up our 40ft FW in Michigan cause we can save over $10,000. 52 vs 63k. One dealer, Lakeshore RV, mentioned that they have multiple people fly in and pickup up truck and RV in one go. They help drive them to the Ford (Chevy, Dodge) dealer to get the truck and then pickup the RV. It might be worth talking to Bob.

a couple hours from Chicago, which could work as a landing destination.

Michigan sales tax is 6%, Texas is 6.25%, so not much different


Wow, that's a huge saving. I have noticed good prices & that a lot of people on this forum buy in Michigan. What happens if the street address we can use for registration & insurance etc. are in Texas? Can we get temporary plates to get back to Texas?


yes, you get a 15 day temp tag ($10 fee) to travel to Texas to do the final registration (Michigan collects 6% of the 6.25) U have to pay the remainder 0.25% when u do the final registration

we are driving up for a family thing anyhow, so a couple hundred dollars in fuel difference for near $11K difference is a duh!
(I have a 2012 Ford f350 dually TV already)

now, we are looking at Keystone trailers, Montana and Alpine (we are getting the Alpine) and we are getting a 2013 model year.

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Sorry folks I don't believe Michigan in end of March in the snow wood be a good idea for shopping for FW and and traveling .
Frank an Ausi in Florida .


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Mik68 -
It would appear you have done your necessary homework..[emoticon]

Discuss with your mates where your immediate travel destinations will be. What you want to see and do - and the travel distances from L.A. or Dallas.

Bottom line of costs between the two - is pretty much a wash.

If purchased in California you can (legally) avoid sales tax if you take delivery out of CA.
CA *residents* have been doing that for years - via the "CA 90 day rule" - which is now one year.
Standing joke about some Nevada campgrounds - they looked like ghost towns due to all the empty RVs.

Unfortunately, you must register 'somewhere'.
I would be looking at those options -vs fees- as part of your research.

You can register (both) in South Dakota, without physically going there. SD has 3% sales (excise) tax, and *dramatically* lower license fee/s than CA (especially for the trucks).
Contact any one of the mail forwarding services in SD such as "Americas Mailbox" for more information.

Hope you enjoy the visit - wish I was planning the opposite adventure!..[emoticon]


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