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RFCN2

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greyghost - The American line is one of the best ever built. When we were looking they were on my short list. Like you we just found one we really loved and bought it. The year your new one is is great. Before the economic meltdown and so the makers were still all working to make the best possible rig and had the staff to do it.

It concerns me a bit that your acceleration is less than your old coach. Check your computer on yours to see what the max boost pressure it next time you drive it up a hill. Mine runs about 25-26 psi. I am not positive what the right boost is for your motor, but lots of people that read this forum can tell you. Since I replaced the intercooler in ours two months ago ours is acting like a sports car. Yours should too.

As far as California roads. Some are really really bad rough and 3rd World. We drove up 99 and I 5 last week and until we got north of Sacramento very rough. You should check to make sure the inflation on your tires is right. Too much air will make for a harder than necessary ride. Old rubber tends to ride a bit harder. So check the build dates on your tires. If older than six year you might consider replacement.

Sounds like you have a great coach. Buy some oil company stock so you can get back some of the money you will be paying for the $4.25 per gal diesel.


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This was a consignment. We got it down as far as we could. Could I have gotten another one for less money, probably but this one had the following: New Michelin tires, all new batteries,factory U'G to a 400 HP Cummins, heated tile floor, Tracc Vision sat system, dual pane windows redone, 3 slide out trays and slide out tool box, mounted spare, and of course a Select Comfort bed, one 125 watt solar panel, upgraded inverter. We may have paid too much, but for what we wanted and what was out there, we feel fairly comfortable with the price.

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2005 American Tradition 40W
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Greyghost wrote:

This was a consignment. We got it down as far as we could. Could I have gotten another one for less money, probably but this one had the following: New Michelin tires, all new batteries,factory U'G to a 400 HP Cummins, heated tile floor, Tracc Vision sat system, dual pane windows redone, 3 slide out trays and slide out tool box, mounted spare, and of course a Select Comfort bed, one 125 watt solar panel, upgraded inverter. We may have paid too much, but for what we wanted and what was out there, we feel fairly comfortable with the price.

Thanks for the input.


I wouldn't worry about the power comparison thing. The 8.1 coupled with an Allison transmission on a gas coach will run down many pushers, even up the hills. This changes real fast when you start to haul a heavy toad but the 8.1 is definitely no slump.


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Greyghost wrote:

This was a consignment. We got it down as far as we could. Could I have gotten another one for less money, probably but this one had the following: New Michelin tires, all new batteries,factory U'G to a 400 HP Cummins, heated tile floor, Tracc Vision sat system, dual pane windows redone, 3 slide out trays and slide out tool box, mounted spare, and of course a Select Comfort bed, one 125 watt solar panel, upgraded inverter. We may have paid too much, but for what we wanted and what was out there, we feel fairly comfortable with the price.

Thanks for the input.


Congrat's on the new coach, if you are both really liking it, I'd say that you got a great deal. Sounds like it's really nicely optioned out. Now load her up, grab ,momma and head out for a few trips.[emoticon]

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If you are satisfied with what you got for whatever you paid, that is all that counts. It sounds nice and the American Tradition is a very nice rig.

As far as acceleration, from the DP had for 8 years (36' with a CAT 330) and the one we now have (42' with Cummins 425), diesels are not hot rods in terms of off-the-line acceleration. Also, remember that the gas coach with the big block Chevy engine is probably much lighter than the Tradition you just purchased. Where the diesel will shine (assuming it is running right with proper boost, etc.), is when you get it loaded for travel and a toad hooked to the back and head out into the hills. Plus, you won't have to listen to that gas engine under your feet screaming at 4500 rpm to get you up that hill.

Wishing you and the DW many happy and safe miles.


2007 Country Coach Allure 470, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 Super Crew toad. SMI Air Force One braking system. Lucy the rescued lab/springer mix; Dixie rescued beagle mix. Glen Allen, VA

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Congratulations!!! Many happy years of travel! [emoticon]

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Greyghost, congrats on your new coach! Happy Trails, Rooster

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You'll be thrilled with the new coach! It weighs a heck of a lot more than your gasser, so don't expect significant gains in fuel economy. Our 500hp Monaco Executive gets ~~6-7mpg, whether towing or not. We are at ~~45,000#. We tow a Wrangler Unlimited and you can't tell it's back there with the weight of the coach!

Does yours have an Aqua-Hot? You'll never own another coach without it once you have one...........


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Does yours have an Aqua-Hot? You'll never own another coach without it once you have one...........

This is probably the only option I wanted that it didn't have. Once we take possession I'll see if I can post some pic's. The walk through is scheduled for Aug 9 and hopefully we can do the swap in Reno the same day or the next.

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Sorry I did see this post before. My only concern for you is the ISL wrist pin issue. Here is the notice. I hope this does not apply to you.

This defect involves Cummins ISL CMS5O diesel engines produced for recreational
vehicle applications between October 17,2005 and April 18, 2006. There are 2159
engines in the subject population

The ISL CM850 recreational vehicle ESNs eligible for this campaign range from 46543077 to46603939.

A complete listing of the subject populations by vehicle manufacturer is
attached in Appendix A.

Estimated extent of defect population.

Cummins estimates that approximately 3.3% of the subject population of engines could experience a connecting rod failure.

Description of defect.

The connecting rod contains a machining defect in the wrist pin bushing of the rod that could cause a seizure of the piston pin, which if allowed to progress, can lead to engine failure with the possibility of the rod rupturing the block cavity, oil and debris on the roadway and vehicle crash.

Chronology of events.

Over the later months of 2006, Cummins received reports of ISL CM850 engine failures of recreational vehicles in the field. The failures were occurring on ISL CM850 engines built after October 17, 2005.

In response to these reports, Cummins Service Engineering and Cummins Product
Engineering investigated the failures and coordinated problem solving activities.

On May 11, 2007, these activities led to a management decision to conduct a safety campaign on ISL CM850 recreational vehicle engines built between October 17,2005 and April 18,2006.

To date, Cummins is not aware of any injuries, fatalities, or crashes that were the result of this defect.

Remedy program.

Cummins will recalibrate the engine control module. Additionally, Cummins will
enhance the Engine Protection System enabling it to provide early detection of the
failure mode and avoid more serious engine damage and resultant safety hazard. This
will involve installation of a new valve cover with a crankcase pressure sensor. Prior to
failure, the new crankcase pressure sensor will provide a signal to the dash with a red
light. A red lamp gives an indication to the driver to stop the engine as soon as it can
safely be done The campaign will be completed without charge to engine owners.
Cummins notes and emphasizes that all covered vehicles involved in the campaign were sold with a 5- year or 100,000 mile warranty and are estimated to have extensive warranty coverage remaining on these engines to cover future repairs as needed.


Customer/owner notifications.
Notifications are expected to begin in July 2007, once Cummins is in receipt of the OEM recall authorizations and customer lists.

Appendix A
OEM No. of Engines
Country Coach 94
Foretravel 9
Freightliner Custom Chassis 666
Monaco 818
Spartan 499
Western RV 58
Cummins Distributors 15


2000 Monaco Dynasty
ISC350

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