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Phase3

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I'd like to hear more about your experiences with the VRV when you return. Apparently, these 26FB's are not all over the place and just being able to see one in person is a challenge.

Let's talk when you return.

Have a safe trip.

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Phase3 wrote:

I'd like to hear more about your experiences with the VRV when you return. Apparently, these 26FB's are not all over the place and just being able to see one in person is a challenge.

Let's talk when you return.

Have a safe trip.


I returned back to my homebase late yesterday in some of the worst driving conditions I have ever driven. Monsoon type rains for 70% of the 1000 miles on I-95. There was a dramatic improvement in how my VRV towed since I loaded as mentioned earlier. In fact, it was hard to believe it was the same trailer. I never put the WD bars on, I only used the one sway bar. Rock steady, even in cross winds. Truck pulled it much better too and I was able to even use sixth gear on flat areas which I couldn't do on the way down to Daytona. Even at 70 mph I was surprised how stable the trailer was. I figure I have about 600 pounds or tongue weight now. Being a front bedroom, I think its pretty much imposable to add a tremendous amount of weight on the hitch. No you do not need a WD hitch with this trailer and it just further proves to me what the idiot dealer is that I had to deal with.


2008 Chevy 2500 Crew Cab 6.0 gas, 2013 Audi A5 Q, 2013 VRV 26FB Toy Hauler by Livin Lite , Triumph 1200 Explorer

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Carrera man wrote:

Phase3 wrote:

I'd like to hear more about your experiences with the VRV when you return. Apparently, these 26FB's are not all over the place and just being able to see one in person is a challenge.

Let's talk when you return.

Have a safe trip.


I returned back to my homebase late yesterday in some of the worst driving conditions I have ever driven. Monsoon type rains for 70% of the 1000 miles on I-95. There was a dramatic improvement in how my VRV towed since I loaded as mentioned earlier. In fact, it was hard to believe it was the same trailer. I never put the WD bars on, I only used the one sway bar. Rock steady, even in cross winds. Truck pulled it much better too and I was able to even use sixth gear on flat areas which I couldn't do on the way down to Daytona. Even at 70 mph I was surprised how stable the trailer was. I figure I have about 600 pounds or tongue weight now. Being a front bedroom, I think its pretty much imposable to add a tremendous amount of weight on the hitch. No you do not need a WD hitch with this trailer and it just further proves to me what the idiot dealer is that I had to deal with.


I would agree that the extra tongue weight would have helped as they are light trailers but you still need 10-15% on the tongue or you will get the sway.

On another note what hitch did BandRV give you? My 22x8.5 VRV is in and I'm going to pick it up this Saturday. I will have a 70 mile trip home, all I-78 and I don't think I will need a WDH for a empty trailer!

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I doubt I have 10% as I think I have a gross closer to 8K. Now that I'm home few a few weeks I should have time to have it weighed at the local lumber yard.
B & R put on a Pro whatever WD hitch, it's the type that has chains. You do not need it with one of these trailers and I would suggest that you do not have them install one. Unless you put everything toward the front a WD is a waste of money.
The problems have been very few. A small problem with the fridge was solved when I removed a portion of insulation away from a a cooling unit, I believe the antenna is not hooked up at all, I need to figure out the problem with that, and the CD player doesn't work but that just needs to be returned to the manufacture. All and all I'm very please with this trailer and everyone who saw it at Bike week agreed it's one of the highist quality toy haulers money can buy.

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Ok, I just weighed the tongue weight with a scale on my empty 8.5x22 VRV and with the trailer level its 800lbs. The empty weight of the trailer from the factory says 3960lbs.

I will still take it to a CAT scale when I get the time.

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Stevepro172 wrote:

Ok, I just weighed the tongue weight with a scale on my empty 8.5x22 VRV and with the trailer level its 800lbs. The empty weight of the trailer from the factory says 3960lbs.

I will still take it to a CAT scale when I get the time.

Steve


So I guess that you will have to experiment with the placement of your toys. With bikes over the axle, I guess the tongue weight will be fairly neutral. Since I may have anywhere from 3 to 6 street bikes packed in tight, I will have to see what is an optimal setup, with the lighter bikes behind the axle.

I plan on putting an Prosine 2.0Kw inverter setup in the external storage bunk and will have to consider battery weight. A fat juicy single 12v/400+Ah battery weighs over 300lbs. So I guess that I shouldn't locate it in the area of the forward storage compartment where I had initially planned. Maybe it should be installed in the side entry of the compartment, to the rear?

I also have a truck body builder friend that said he can adapt the Reese sway control/leveling setup to the aluminum without compromising the aluminum chassis. I was told not to drill through chassis.

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Ok here is a couple of pictures. Not too exciting as it's bone stock. I can't remember who wanted some measurements but here you go. Inside before the wheel well is 96" wide from the back door to the wheel well. The space between the wheel well is 78.5" wide. The length from the back door to where it cuts down is 72". The is in my 8.5x22 VRV.

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My 2 year old loves it. rides his bike down the ramp!

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In this picture you can see the wheel wells cutting into the space

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and this one is just cool!

Today was a shake down of sorts. Run everything to make sure it worked. This morning was 32 degrees and the heater had it 80 in about 45 minutes.

Let me know if anyone wants more information and I will try to provide it.

Steve

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I am new to this forum and am stoked about purchasing a VRV! Only problem is my husband wants to see one first which is understandable and seems to be a common problem. The closes place to us that has them in stock is 5 hours away. I was wondering if anyone in this forum lived closer than 5 hours from Jacksonville, Florida and wouldn't mind showing their VRV off to us [emoticon] We love everything about the VRVs and are going to get either the VRV XTR 6x14 or 6x19/7x19 or Livin Lites VRV 6x18.

Also, the guy that makes the VRV XTR says with a Honda Pilot that we would not enjoy towing anything larger than 6 feet....anyone have experience with this? This will be our first camper and first towing experience.

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Looks great Steve! I've been doing a ton of work on mine outfitting for my use. Just finished installing the second sink and I'm having a few more custom made shelfs made. I should pretty much be done with it by the end of the week and ready to roll again on another 2000 mile trip in two weeks. I can tell you this, the more I work on this trailer the more impressed I become with it. The quality of work and the engineering that went into it makes my previous DP Monaco motorhome even more pathetic then it was. Every single thing in it is designed for strength and lightness. Sort of reminds me of an airplane.

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CoyleClan wrote:

I am new to this forum and am stoked about purchasing a VRV! Only problem is my husband wants to see one first which is understandable and seems to be a common problem. The closes place to us that has them in stock is 5 hours away. I was wondering if anyone in this forum lived closer than 5 hours from Jacksonville, Florida and wouldn't mind showing their VRV off to us [emoticon] We love everything about the VRVs and are going to get either the VRV XTR 6x14 or 6x19/7x19 or Livin Lites VRV 6x18.

Also, the guy that makes the VRV XTR says with a Honda Pilot that we would not enjoy towing anything larger than 6 feet....anyone have experience with this? This will be our first camper and first towing experience.


Too bad you didn't post this earlier as I was in Daytona a few weeks ago for bike week. Many people checked out my trailer there and I wouldn't be surprised if I sold a few Livin Lite trailers for them LOL! I'll be in NW Georgia for another motorcycle event in a couple of weeks but thats probably at least five hours away from you. Call the factory and see if a dealer is closer to you, there getting new dealers all the time and there might be someone closer then what you found.

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