ExRocketScientist
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Switch from putty tape to something like Eternabond double stick. The putty tape starts leaking around the screws after 3 or 4 years.
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mockturtle
WA
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Golden_HVAC wrote:mockturtle wrote:Jacksons wrote:reduce the size of the black tank, and increase the size of grey tank. Amen to that! What do they think, we dump the grey water on the ground or something?? 
Umm,
When boondocking in he desert more than a week, I regularly dump the grey water onto the plants that desperately need the water. I like my 59 gallon black tank, and put up with the 42 gallon grey tank. I can transfer grey water into the black tank if someplace like Yosemite, where dumping would be stupid and illegal too. In a crowded campground, dumping water will be dangerous to your health, as well as those camping after you. However when in the dry and sandy desert, the water is quickly absorbed into the ground, and I bury mine about 12" down, so no flies are attracted, and no mess or smell.
Yes it is still legal to dump grey water in dispersed camping on BLM land, Don't know how long it will continue, yet it was OK last time I checked.
What do all these environmentalists think? The deer carry around a bag to go in? Get a life, a little fertilizer will not hurt the soil.
Fred. I wasn't making the point that you couldn't dump grey water on the ground but most of us stay in campgrounds where you cannot and our grey tanks fill much faster than our black tanks. IMHO, the grey tank should be twice as big as the black.
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hottubkid
SCHAUMBURG,IL
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Uaually in a campground we are connected to the sewer so we don't even need a grey tank
mockturtle wrote:Golden_HVAC wrote:mockturtle wrote:Jacksons wrote:reduce the size of the black tank, and increase the size of grey tank. Amen to that! What do they think, we dump the grey water on the ground or something??
Umm,
When boondocking in he desert more than a week, I regularly dump the grey water onto the plants that desperately need the water. I like my 59 gallon black tank, and put up with the 42 gallon grey tank. I can transfer grey water into the black tank if someplace like Yosemite, where dumping would be stupid and illegal too. In a crowded campground, dumping water will be dangerous to your health, as well as those camping after you. However when in the dry and sandy desert, the water is quickly absorbed into the ground, and I bury mine about 12" down, so no flies are attracted, and no mess or smell.
Yes it is still legal to dump grey water in dispersed camping on BLM land, Don't know how long it will continue, yet it was OK last time I checked.
What do all these environmentalists think? The deer carry around a bag to go in? Get a life, a little fertilizer will not hurt the soil.
Fred. I wasn't making the point that you couldn't dump grey water on the ground but most of us stay in campgrounds where you cannot and our grey tanks fill much faster than our black tanks. IMHO, the grey tank should be twice as big as the black.
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mbrule
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hottubkid wrote:Uaually in a campground we are connected to the sewer so we don't even need a grey tank
mockturtle wrote:Golden_HVAC wrote:mockturtle wrote:Jacksons wrote:reduce the size of the black tank, and increase the size of grey tank. Amen to that! What do they think, we dump the grey water on the ground or something??
Umm,
When boondocking in he desert more than a week, I regularly dump the grey water onto the plants that desperately need the water. I like my 59 gallon black tank, and put up with the 42 gallon grey tank. I can transfer grey water into the black tank if someplace like Yosemite, where dumping would be stupid and illegal too. In a crowded campground, dumping water will be dangerous to your health, as well as those camping after you. However when in the dry and sandy desert, the water is quickly absorbed into the ground, and I bury mine about 12" down, so no flies are attracted, and no mess or smell.
Yes it is still legal to dump grey water in dispersed camping on BLM land, Don't know how long it will continue, yet it was OK last time I checked.
What do all these environmentalists think? The deer carry around a bag to go in? Get a life, a little fertilizer will not hurt the soil.
Fred. I wasn't making the point that you couldn't dump grey water on the ground but most of us stay in campgrounds where you cannot and our grey tanks fill much faster than our black tanks. IMHO, the grey tank should be twice as big as the black.
Tank size is determined by the type of camping one does. One of those things that cannot be standardized to please everyone and also something hard for manufacturers to make optional due to differences in space required.
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skipole
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Atlee wrote:Kennedycamper wrote:I would like to see sales brocures with real weights, and the weight that all options add. Then people wouldn't have to guess if thier truck would haul it. Also more areo dynamic trailers for better MPG.
I'm not sure they can put the real weight since each trailer may have different options added at the factory. That said, they should add the pounds of each option they mention in their brochure. Also, what a filled 20# LPG bottle weights, and what the weight of the battery they put in the TT.
If they would just put those numbers in the brochure, it would help a great deal.
I'd be happy if they put the real as built weight on the sticker. Manufactures should buy a set of scales and as the final step in the build get the actual four corner weights.
Just my opinion.
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ExRocketScientist
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skipole wrote:Atlee wrote:Kennedycamper wrote:I would like to see sales brocures with real weights, and the weight that all options add. Then people wouldn't have to guess if thier truck would haul it. Also more areo dynamic trailers for better MPG.
I'm not sure they can put the real weight since each trailer may have different options added at the factory. That said, they should add the pounds of each option they mention in their brochure. Also, what a filled 20# LPG bottle weights, and what the weight of the battery they put in the TT.
If they would just put those numbers in the brochure, it would help a great deal.
I'd be happy if they put the real as built weight on the sticker. Manufactures should buy a set of scales and as the final step in the build get the actual four corner weights.
Just my opinion.
Ski
Then you might like the Evergreen products. They do just that.
One other note: most trailers do not come from the factory with a battery. It is the dealer that installs a battery.
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pnichols
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Quote:IMHO, the grey tank should be twice as big as the black.
I used to think thay way too, but have changed my thinking as follows: IMHO, you want the tank that is the most disagreeable to deal with to be the one that you have to empty the least often. Hence it's actually best that the black tank be as large as possible, which may make the black tank the larger of the two. Grey water can always be off-loaded into the black tank as, and if, it fills ahead of the black tank.
(We do the above off-loading every once in awhile when drycamping in our small Class C MH -> our grey tank is about 30 gallons and our black tank is about 40 gallons.)
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DesertSpooners
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Why can't they just paint the rv and be done with it. Who would buy a car with those graphics that fade and crack in the sunlight?
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frankdamp
Anacortes, or wherever we've gone.
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Use decent quality lumber in the manufacture of the cabintry and quit disguisng cheap wood with sticky tape veneer. If it's hemlock, paint it! I'd also suggest you coud save a bunch of money by building the cabinetry as modules in a cabinet shop, then installing them.
It's painfully obvious that Forest River built the cabinet inside the rig from raw materials. Also, get properly engineered solutions to hanging the upper cabinets to structure. It was a miracle that our cabinets in the dining room slide out didn't fall down on us, after water got in and rusted out the fasteners. It looked like the only attachment to structure was 1/2" wood screws into the 1/16" lauan mahogany plywood ceilng panels and the rigid styrofoan behind the plywood. I didn't see any attachment to hard stucture.
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langenc
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Single handle faucet in kitchen(only sink in truck camper. By the time you get the water temp set yopu wasted a qt-several times while 'washing up'. AND/OR make single handle availabe for DIYers.
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