Pawz4me
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There are numerous health and behavioral benefits of neutering. But having a five year old boy in the home, this alone --
Code2High wrote:E) being statistically at a much higher risk of developing aggression issues since 95 percent of serious/fatal bites involve an unaltered dog
would be more than reason enough for me.
I'm sorry about what happened to your previous puppy. But complications from neutering are pretty rare. "Complications" from having an unneutered dog? Way too common.
Now that doesn't mean you have to rush out and get it done next week. My vet recommends neutering around six months old for most puppies.
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Old-Biscuit
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If it's good for me it's good for the dog......
And I'm not near as aggressive as I use to be 
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Male dogs are "happier" when they're relieved of the testosterone that otherwise constantly torments them into behaviors like roaming, pacing, and humping anything convenient including legs and children
And I'm told that spayed/neutered dogs also live longer.
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I'm sorry to hear about the dog you lost due to complications after the neuter surgery. I too lost a pet during a neuter procedure, my sweet-smart-sassy cat had a reaction to the anesthesia and didn't make it. Was it shocking & heartbreaking? Yes... of course it was.... Will it ever keep me from getting a pet neutered or spayed? Absolutely not! It is quite rare to lose a pet from these procedures, think of the HUGE number of pets that have no complications. I know Deuce was the exception rather than the rule, but it hurt to lose him and I know you must feel the same about the dog you lost. It is something we won't forget but we have to do what is right....
Honestly, there is no reason for pet owners to have intact pets but some do... so the rest of us have to be sure we do our part and get ours neutered or spayed. That helps keep un-needed litters from happening, keeps pets from wandering off; after all the call of natures is quite strong, overall the pets are more content after the surgery, and there could be some health benefits as well... some people will debate that last benefit so I said "could be".
Please get your new dog neutered, after a day or so he won't even know anything happened, so try not to worry and go ahead and get it done..in a month or so. Thanks!
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skylos wrote:i'm all for it, as long as you keep your actions consistent and have the testicles of you and yours snipped off when you don't plan on breeding any more. No big deal, doesn't change a meaningful thing, you'll be more relaxed and focused on life, right? 
Dogs aren't humans, and unlike what would happen in your situation if you were "fixed," your dog has never been told that he needs to have sexual urges or testosterone, and he won't miss it. It just won't be there. He isn't reading Playboy, he is responding to his body and what isn't there isn't a problem.
How would you like to be "intact" and be told that you could never ever have sex? Unlike having that particular biological drive go away, when it is there, the dog experiences frustration with what he can't have. And if the dog isn't breeding, then there is never going to be an outlet for that energy. Do you really think that's doing the dog a favor? Maybe you should consider chatting with some prison lifers and get their perspective on that. I think you'd find it is a source of ongoing frustration to them.
Now transfer that problem over to a being that functions at the level of say a three or four year old child.... does NOT have the options that humans do for ah... relief... and tell me if you can figure out why intact dogs have more behavioral problems than neutered dogs.
And frankly, I can think of a lot of people in this world who'd be happier and more functional if they were spayed or neutered. Quite a few of them are or seek to be in leadership positions, in fact, and you may have heard their names. They might not run in front of a car while chasing a female in heat, but they certainly do make a wreck of their lives.
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Snip! We haven't had a dog or cat that hadn't been fixed in over 20 years till now. I have a rescue female dog right now and as soon as she drys up from having pups she is going to the vet! Some of you may remember her, hit by a car,starved, rescued by my son, 5 pups after all that. While it was fun having the pups and I found good homes for them that will be all for this dog. To many dogs needing homes as it is without us contributing more. Plus the dogs are healthier in the long run.
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Code2High wrote:skylos wrote:i'm all for it, as long as you keep your actions consistent and have the testicles of you and yours snipped off when you don't plan on breeding any more. No big deal, doesn't change a meaningful thing, you'll be more relaxed and focused on life, right?
Dogs aren't humans,
Dogs and humans are both mammals and operate on largely the same DNA. Dogs and Humans are mostly each other - they certainly have more in common than they have in difference.
Code2High wrote: and unlike what would happen in your situation if you were "fixed," your dog has never been told that he needs to have sexual urges or testosterone, and he won't miss it. It just won't be there. He isn't reading Playboy, he is responding to his body and what isn't there isn't a problem.
Thats exactly what people who have been neutered tell me its like. There is nothing to respond to, there is nothing more than an intellectual 'missing' of it, its not an issue because its simply not there.
Code2High wrote: How would you like to be "intact" and be told that you could never ever have sex?
Sounds like how I was brought up, intact with raging hormones and told I couldn't have sex in any way until oh, I'm 22 and married, effectively. Now tell me that to a 14 year old, that may as well be defined as 'forever'.
Oh, and since my significant other was in an automobile accident six years ago, incapacitating him for the rest of his life, I face that stress every single day too.
Yeah, I pretty much know what that is like. I find ways to cope. Some think it icky. But they're not inside my body feeling this, are they?
Code2High wrote: Unlike having that particular biological drive go away, when it is there, the dog experiences frustration with what he can't have. And if the dog isn't breeding, then there is never going to be an outlet for that energy. Do you really think that's doing the dog a favor?
I don't think the dog has a concept of future on the matter - just how he feels right now. Not that it makes how he feels now any better. But things can be done to relieve this stress.
Code2High wrote: Maybe you should consider chatting with some prison lifers and get their perspective on that. I think you'd find it is a source of ongoing frustration to them.
Indeed, indeed it is. A constant stress. You might even consider it unethical to deprive somebody, were you to consider such things that way. But society doesn't seem to want to discuss those issues. And as a result, people have a way of finding some relief, all too often by victimizing others. There needs to be a better way of handling sex in prison issues.
Code2High wrote: Now transfer that problem over to a being that functions at the level of say a three or four year old child.... does NOT have the options that humans do for ah... relief... and tell me if you can figure out why intact dogs have more behavioral problems than neutered dogs.
Sounds like an institution for the mentally retarded. What is the ethical thing to do with their sexual behavioral problems? Somehow society doesn't think they should be neutered, seems to think we should deal with their problems the best we can anyway. Interesting dichotomy. Do you permanently alter other sentient beings for your personal convenience and/or their own good? Does a 4 year old mentality deserve to not be neutered, but a 3 year old does? 2? How can anybody make decisions like that? I see the ethical issue as identical, but the action different, and I think consistency is in order.
Code2High wrote: And frankly, I can think of a lot of people in this world who'd be happier and more functional if they were spayed or neutered.
I'm pretty sure I'm on that list somewhere. Probably fairly far down it, but still.
Code2High wrote: Quite a few of them are or seek to be in leadership positions, in fact, and you may have heard their names. They might not run in front of a car while chasing a female in heat, but they certainly do make a wreck of their lives.
Yes they do, yes they do. But they're adults. An unaltered adult dog is an adult too - perhaps not with your or my mental faculties, but they're still, emotionally physically an adult.
*I* think they should be allowed to be who they are, and they shouldn't have any of their needs neglected, even if humans find it icky.
Naturally, feel free to disagree with me. I present what I am saying here as to point out that there IS another opinion and perspective on this matter - its not a world full of a homogeneous blanket of people who think that neutering is the only, or even ethical, answer.
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Francesca Knowles
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Code2High wrote:
(men) might not run in front of a car while chasing a female in heat
They will, however, do things like this:
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Francesca Knowles
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skylos wrote:
Thats exactly what people who have been neutered tell me its like.
Skylos
Interesting crowd you're getting your feedback from- what are you, a Probation Officer for Sex Offenders?
That's the ONLY group of people I can think of that might have "been neutered" and those few by Chemical Castration....
You do understand that having a vasectomy does not "neuter" a man....Right?????
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Please do not put much into anything Skylos has written. Neuter the dog.
It is not just dogs that function better without their "parts" - just about every domesticated animal can be spayed or neutered. Neutering of males is often more practical than spaying females of certain species, so you often see more "fixed" males than females in some animals.
Horses are gelded for a reason, the same as bulls and boars and billies are castrated.
No matter what the domesticated species - removing the testosterone has huge benefits!
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