kjburns

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If we were planning to full-time, we'd go with the MH we have now, a Winnebago 40TD. The floor plan becomes a big deal as one spends more time in it. Our previous MH got a little narrow/claustrophobic after extended trips, so width is kind of a priority. The living room area is perfect for our needs, with seating on one side and the fireplace and TV on the other...very much like you'd find in a house.
With 400HP, it's plenty capable on the road while towing. The generator is quiet enough to ignore. The water and sewage tanks are plenty large for those times away from hookups.
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What you need to figure out, if you are accustomed to living in a large space, is how small a space the two of you can live in together, without going nuts or divorcing or killing each other. In a 40 foot motorhome, you are looking at 320 to 360 sq ft of living space. That should be enough space if you occasionally (or frequently) need space of your own, but it really depends on how much space each of you needs, and how far apart.
Our own experience, coming out of a 1200 sq ft house, in 240 sq ft, we do pretty well for two to three weeks, but start feeling cramped after 4-6 weeks.
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One floorplan that didn't seem to catch on is a murphy bed in the bedroom. With it folded up you would have another living area. Might be worth while trying to find one.
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Birddogman wrote: I would agree that a 40’ DP with slides would be the way to go – the only way as far as I am concerned. I would not presume to advise you as to what particular brand/model, other than to say that you get what you pay for and better, is, well… better. Getting the right floor plan for you and your wife is perhaps the most important thing. Remember you will need a toad, as well.
You will save money by buying used, but if you plan to use the RV for a long time, you might want to give some thought to buying new. If you are going to keep the coach until it is essentially worn out, depreciation ceases to be an issue and you will KNOW that all of the maintenance has been done properly because you will have done it yourself. That was essentially our rationale, in addition to having made a truly stunning deal for cash when the RV market was at its bottom. We are probably good for 15 more years of RV travel before we get too old – I figure our coach, bought brand new in 2008, will last that long. After that, I don’t care.
But, I think you are focusing on the wrong thing by focusing on the vehicle, rather than the fact that you’d be living in campgrounds!
For me the reality of fulltiming - living in campgrounds - is too terrible to contemplate. We live way back in the sticks, in a wonderful home we built to perfectly suit our unique needs and desires. We are about as self-sufficient as people can be in this modern world. We have our own huge automatic generator system for when the power goes down, our own well, plenty of land to farm, lots of game, we heat with wood cut on our place, etc, etc. I can run my dogs, hunt, fish, shoot, ride or do just about anything else I want without ever leaving my own place and without anyone able to impose their rules on me or otherwise try to tell me how to live my life.
Campgrounds are crowded places with all of the countless onerous rules needed when you have so many people living cheek-to-jowl in such limited space. Many non-resort campgrounds seemed to be packed with people who are not there by choice – sad for them, but I’ve worked my whole life so I don’t have to live in a slum (mobile or otherwise). Plus, there seem to be a large number of people with nothing better to do than to wander around the campground looking to meet their new best friend and they will “visit” you on your site to regale you for hours with tales of their latest medical procedures, grandchildren, etc – and what are you going to do – say “Excuse me, I’m heading home now?” You are trapped. On weekends, campgrounds seem to fill with people who are there for their one big blow-out of the year, with lots of noise, loud music, drunken behavior, etc – all 10’ from your front door.
This week I’m doing a seminar in Hershey, PA, on federal death tax for tax lawyers. I decided to take the MH, so the dogs could go with me. I am “camped” at Hershey Highmeadows campground – a very well regarded place – and am crammed into a tiny site with hundreds of other people - all of whom seem to be on raucous party-hardy vacations – see pic.
It’s much better than staying in a hotel, and the MH itself is totally comfortable in every way, but I would never want to spend the rest of my life living in campgrounds like this one – I’d rather live here, where I don’t need to even see another person if I don’t want to:
Having a regular home, a MH makes a great way to travel, especially if you can avoid campgrounds (usually I am “camping” in remote places in the west for upland bird hunting). It also makes a good way to visit kids (because you can take your “home” with you and go back to your own “home” when you’ve had enough visiting). Having both a nice, well equipped, home and an nice RV to go wherever you want, whenever you want and for as long as you want is, to my mind anyway, the best of both worlds. The MH is totally comfortable to live in for extended periods; and I'd rather live in my MH than in any urban or suburban setting, but barring complete financial disaster, I would never choose to live fulltime in it.
To me (and I know there are those who will disagree), the only reason to fulltime is financial. It is certainly less costly to just live in a MH than to own and use both a regular home and a MH.
I'd like to humbly say sir that the more I read your postings...the smarter you seem to get...
P.S> And I still love those dogs..!!
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Steve S.

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I read through the posts because I have sometimes thought full timing might eventually be a distant future option for us (we're in our 40's now with two children at home for another ~10 years so this wouldn't be for another 15-20 years).
Birddogman has many of the same concerns that my wife has. She doesn't think she could handle having so many unknown, potentially "rougher/noisier/louder" people around us and largely due to this I don't think campground life would ever work full time for us. We have stayed at some restrictive camp grounds too over the years that are very strict with who and what type of camper is allowed to stay and we found this really isn't the solution either (we are not the "millionaire type" and found WE really didn't fit in).
The previous owners of the motorhome we purchased however, had an interesting solution. What they did was sell their home, purchase the fairly high end, 11 year old motor home and also purchase a couple of undeveloped lots, one in the North West and one in the South East. Each was fairly low cost and away from high density populations, but at the same time in areas that they wanted to be (I believe close to where their children live).
My understanding is they had relatively low priced underground sewage tanks installed that needed to be pumped out for $50 twice a year and they had hydro hookups for the coach. I'm not sure what they did for water, but I expect they had wells installed. I also don't know what they did for grey water, but I expect a dry well could be an option.
So for something like $30-40,000 per location they had their own private lot to park their luxurious house on wheels at.
In addition to this they also parked their home at regular camp grounds while "vacationing" as well as anywhere else that made sense at the time.
They purchased the 40 foot 1996 Monaco Dynasty as their "test home" and later upgraded to a newer 42 foot Monaco with dual slides (the 1996 has none). They said they absolutely love the life style and everything about it.
Another thing they did was build a large workshop/garage at one location to store their extra "stuff". I'm not sure if they also use it as a hobby shop or not, but if we were considering full timing I think I would need a workshop.
For certain I would only consider a 40' or larger diesel pusher for full timing. We stepped from a 10' pop-up camper directly to the 40' class A and I have no complaints at all about skipping all of the smaller travel trailer and class C steps that most people go through.
As far as comparing a class A to a high end 5th wheel trailer, for full timing I would imagine either is a similar option. The primary advantage (in my opinion) to a class A is luxury travel as well as when stopped. Personally I love driving and my wife and I both love exploring by traveling. For this reason we place a high value on cruising in comfort (especially with two daughters). Traveling in a luxurious 40' class A diesel pusher with soft air suspension, luxurious ultraleather couches and recliners, a bathroom, washer/dryer, fridge, microwave, etc., all fully available and functional while traveling down the road, is what I believe makes a class A the best choice compared to a high end 5th wheel.
There are several different manufacturers for high end class A motorhomes and I don't have time to go through all of the reasons for why we went with Monaco but there are several others I would rank equally high. The reality is in our particular situation we went with Monaco because, of the manufacturers that ended up on our short list, they had the best floor plan for our needs. Since we have a family of 4 with two children, we wanted a coach with a HUGE closet that could be converted to a pair of bunk beds without having to remove the washer/dryer (while at the same time having 3 privacy doors isolating the closet/bunk beds from the toilet, from the master bedroom, and from the kitchen).
In our case since we had such specific floorplan needs, once we filtered this along with our price range (sub $40,000), condition and other option we had on our list (diesel generator, ice maker, washer/dryer, air suspension, classy color scheme (such as the white ultraleather furniture/solid oak cabinetry/etc.), full time 120V system, etc.) we only found a dozen or so to actually go and look at.
If you do consider units as old as ours, and I expect this is typical, you can probably expect for it to require a fair bit of maintenance. Ours looked, on the surface, to be in flawless condition (except for numerous minor scratches on the exterior), but we ended up installing new batteries, new tires, changing all of the fluids and filters, rebuilding the alternator, having a crack between the rear axle and the rear sub-frame welded, redoing all of the exterior sikaflex caulking, installing new eternabond sealant throughout the roof, etc. We had budgeted $5000 for repairs before buying, but in reality we have gone over our budget ($3000 in tires alone). We also budgeted $3000 for the bunk bed conversion, but ended up spending over $4000 by the time we had new oak walls, ceiling, railings, cupboards, re-routed the plumbing and electrical, new 120V sockets, new bunk fans, 3 bunk lights each (including a reading light), clock radios, etc. I believe we made the right decision with the bunk beds. They could have been done much cheaper, but now we have a coach with a pair of bunks that look at least as good as the rest of the oak cabinetry and they are well equipped (although no TVs; we did consider installing TVs...).
For us we absolutely love traveling in our Dynasty and I can't think of a better way to travel. We plan to do several 2 month or longer vacations and I'm sure we'll be very comfortable. As far as living full time, with a family of four I'm sure we would be too cramped. Longer term it may be an option for the two of us, but I think the only way it would work for us would be to also own several "equipped" (hydro, sewage, water) private lots (with one being in the Rocky Mountains somewhere), one lot including a large garage/workshop, and we would have to provide ourselves with a mixture of staying on friends/relatives properties, staying at different campgrounds, and staying at our private lot(s).
For full timing I also could see us wanting to move up to an even larger, even higher end motorhome that is designed primarily for two people (as most are; without bunk beds). Moving from an almost 4000 square foot home into a 340 square foot motor home (current motorhome's size) is a big step. Some of the largest 45' class As with multiple slides can provide over 500 square feet of space.
Realistically I can't imagine being "welcome" 365 days out of the year on children's/relative's driveways. Personally I also don't think living full time in a campground would be ideal for us and I expect the same would be true for many other people. Have you considered buying some land you can "camp" on and call home for a portion of the year? To me a mixture of relative's driveways, campgrounds, and private lots would be the way to make the most of full timing. Will it really work staying on a relative's driveway for 365 days out of each year?
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I agree with SteveS on alot of things. We plan to sell the house in a year or so. Then we'll either buy (or rent) a much smaller house or lot to build a large workshop/cover for the motorhome. We'll spend winters here in SE Louisiana. Then as we travel we'll look for a lot/acreage in the rockies or maybe the great lakes where we can set up a summer homebase. Just as those who've spent their lives battling the cold up north I'm tired of living in a hot humid mosquito infested swamp. I'm looking forward to searching for the right place for our summer place.
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Birddogman! You're living my dream.
I agree with everything you said except that the only reason to fulltime is financial. While I don't fulltime yet, I hope to. And I long to live the life of a twenty first century nomad. To wander and discover, meet new folks, not know what the next day will bring.
Perhaps I'm to romantic, and will someday see it your way. I've got to admit that that home in the snow, out in the toolies looks awfully good to me. The prospect of the fishing and hunting and dogs and riding horses and quads on your ranch property anytime you decide, is mighty appealing.
Enjoy it a long time.
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tropical36

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travlinjayco wrote: This is a very serious consideration for my wife and myself. We have raised our kids, live in a fairly large space, space we do not need or keep cool or warm. We have 8 kids together, scattered all over the United States. We are seriously considering living in a class A, being able to take off for which ever state that the kid begs the most. lol
We would like feed back on your experiences. Brands that seem reliable more than others. How loud is the interior with generator running, both diesel pusher and gas coach. We will be looking at used, noting condition of coach, how well kept and maintained. I have read the first buyer post and learned a lot. What I would like is personal experiences with engine choice, problems or brags on your experience. We will be looking in the 40 ft. range, since considering it our home, we are early 60's. We will probably look at slideouts as a preference if we make the well thought out decision to call it home. I know there are some who have tried the living route and may have major complaints, and then some who love it. Please comment on anything you want to say. Hope to get a lot of feed back on any subject. Thanks to all , help make our decision a more informed one, God Bless, Jerry and Colleen
If it's going to be 40ft, then you're pretty much looking for a DP and can forget the gas pullers. Even with your decision to buy used the spectrum is pretty broad, so as per usual it gets down to budget money and will be the most important piece of information for receiving the best feedback along with how old of a rig you're willing to buy. I mean you can spend a small fortune on a 10yr old Newell or Provost conversion.
I think older quality engineering is the best bang for the buck and would be your best bet all around, especially if you decide against this lifestyle and want to sell.
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Since Feb 2010 we are fulltiming in a 2004 33' (yep 33') Country Coach Allure with 2 slides. Plenty of room for us. We have even taken a couple of grandkids for a few days. Of course we had to get rid of most of our "stuff" except the essentials. We tow a 2008 Chevy Colorado pickup (4 door 4x4) "four down" with no problems. We love it. Just remember if you have a spat with your spouse you "can't run away from home anymore!" lol. I say go for it and don't look back! We don't miss the yard to mow and the house to worry about.
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RayChez

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I don't mind RVing for six months out of the year and our coach is a very comfortable 38'DP coach, but after being away for long periods at a time I enjoy going back to my stick house. It is not a real big house that we own 2200 sq feet, but we really like our house and would not sell it. It is a tough decision to make to go full time. I would try part time first to see if you like it or not. Lot of difference going from a couple of thousand square feet to four hundred square feet. So we stay part timers and it works for us.
If I was to go full time ever, I would have to buy the biggest coach that I could buy. Maybe a 45 foot diesel and natually it would have to have a tag because of the length and weight.
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