Polishnurse wrote:

This is an age old debate. But here it is again. Diesel Pushers will run you 30 to 40 thousand more up front to buy. What you get has been mentioned above. what you will also find are the little things, tile floors, granite counter tops just to start. I drive a gasser, because I feel the money looks better in my wallet. For the five to eight thousand miles I drive a year works out to about ten days behind the wheel. I can live a little engine noise, but to honest I hear more wind noise around the front then engine noise.
Yes every 5K miles I get an oil change, most likely 50 bucks or less at Walmarts. When I need tires I'm looking a $275 or so times 6. not $450.00 or so times 6. Would I like a diesel, yes. Is it justified for some yes, for me No.

It all works out to dollars, or for some it's a status symbol. Good Luck and think with your needs not your ego.

Dog Trainer wrote:

Also nobody ever seems to throw into the equation that the gas MH brakes will need to be serviced at least 2 times as often.

Dog Trainer wrote:

to Dispel a couple of myths.
1. Maint. more expensive on a DP. So every 10.00 miles vs 3.000 miles Gasser has to add the cost 3 times if you drive 10,00 miles a year. Also nobody ever seems to throw into the equation that the gas MH brakes will need to be serviced at least 2 times as often.
2. Fuel costs well lets compare apples to apples. Diesel $2.619 Gas $2.559 10-20-09 in Mi. My coach 22,000 gets 11MPG my SIL 32' bounder with 8.1 Chevy 8.5 MPG you do the math. If running in the MTNS I still get high 10's SIL drops to 6.5 again you do the math.
I think it is hard to get the gas vs diesel thing right in your head. These threads lead to a lot of opinions of buy what I have. If you are looking for a large coach then it would not be right for those that compare a 35' and price etc.. you are not going to get 10 MPG either. You will also have higher costs if you buy a coach that takes a 400HP diesel to push it along properly and no matter what the gas crowd says there is not the right gas motor to push the big coach along as it should be. When you refine your search to a size and weight it might be a good time to post the question again.

Kajtek1 wrote:



How-come we come from diesel engine to pusher v/s front engine.
There are ClassC diesels, where the option adds just couple of thousands. With $300 fill-ups and about 20% fuel savings the option will pay for itself awfully fast.
Not very popular option, but id does exist.

phnguyk wrote:

10,000 miles, I change my oil 3x's at $50.00 each for a total of $150.00 compared to an average $200.00 oil change in a diesel. I can service my brakes 3x's to a single cost of servicing brakes on a diesel. Also I don't care what you or anyone with a diesel says you're not getting 3-5 more miles per gallon. Throw your diesel in my F53 chassis then sure. But your big heavy diesel chassis needs a big heavy diesel. Here in Jersey diesel is around $2.89 gas $2.29. Gas 10,000 miles i've used 1200 gallons @ $2.29 approx $2700.00. Diesel 10,000 miles would use 1000 gallons(10mpg, I'm being generous)@ $2.89 is approx $2800.00. Fuel saving, yes you used 200 gallons less but paid $100 more. Now go out and drive even more miles and see what you "spend" on fuel. And if prices rise again you'd better have some extra green laying around. Oh yeah add in my 3 oil changes and your one oil change and we still paid less. Now I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST DIESELS. People ask opinions, if a gasser says "I'm happy" a diesel says "no your not, I'm happier". How about someone looking to get into a class A, sees a nice gasser at a good price, but makes the bad decision to ask on here. He suddenly thinks $50-60-70-80-90-even 100 thousands only going to buy him a loud, rough riding, fall apart down the highway headache all because it's gas powered. As you said "funny how no one mentions blah blah blah" diesel guys scream fuel efficiancy and fuel cost savings when in truth only the first is true. But yet diesels never make public what it costs to lube a diesel chassis, service "air brakes", drain and clean a gelled up fuel system. Nor do they say anything about additives to stop bacteria or from moisture build-up in diesel fuel. Also it's fact you're more likely to get bad diesel compared to bad gas. What's an engine rebuild cost? God forbid a mighty diesel ever exploded. I know that never happens, I just keep my fingers crossed travelling past all the broken down Gassers that are littering the sides of every road in America. One more thing the cost difference is the diesel engine and chassis and air brakes not what goes into a freakin motorhome. You might have tile floors but my last Class C had SOLID OAK cabinets. No my new A doesn't, it has vinyl that looks like tile in the bathroom actually it looks alot like the vinyl in my kitchen at home. You might have basement air, I'll leave that alone(I've heard nothing but wonderful things about that). You might have multiple pass thrus, but I've got da da da "MEGA STORAGE". Anyway pass thrus? How many six foot step ladders does one rv'r need anyway. Your engine's in the back ok, I don't believe ther're really any quieter when your back there, I don't know what some of your hearings like but I can talk to my passengers no problem. Ya ever stood outside a running diesel coach, puuurrrrrs like a kitten right, yeah an angry kitten, heck even the diesel gennys are noisy, but it's up front and you're sleeping in the back(your neighbors ain't) TO END MY TYRADE SPEND WHATCHA GOT OR WHATCHA CAN AND ENJOY. $100 OR $1,000,000 "GOT RV?" IS ALL THAT MATTERS.