Sportsman2505qss
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This happen to my daughter and is very common. She and I filled up her car at a local club gas station and got bad gas. She was at the first pump closest to the tanker that was delivering gas to the station. This can stir up water and we figure this is how she got the water in the tank. I called the club and no one else reported damage. I now have found out she could have been the only car affected. I am going to call them back and fill out a report now. The car started to shake and then shut down completely. The computer will do this to protect the car. I am glad that she was on a side street less than a 1/4 mile from our house as this could have caused a very serious accident. It happened on a Sunday and had the car towed to our house. The car is under warranty, so Monday we had it towed to the Ford dealer. I was shocked when they said it was bad gas, water in the tank. Of course this is not covered with the warranty and cost just under $900 to fix. My husband talk to some of the mechanics where he works and they said this is very common and never put gas in your vehicle when a tanker is present. We learned the hard way and I am not sure if we can recoup any of the money but I am going to try.
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coolbreeze01
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Buy a top tier brand such as Chevron.
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coolbreeze01 wrote:Buy a top tier brand such as Chevron.
Just proves that advertising DOES work!
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I won't name the brand cause it's been what. about 35-40 years, but when I lived in Battle Creek there was a well known brand name, National brand "You can trust" said the ads.... Where the owner was believed to have topped off his underground tanks with his garden hose instead of a proper fuel tanker.
I mean, I had an English Ford Anglia.. That flat 4 would run on 82 octaine. (Way below "Regular") and it would NOT run properly on what he sold me.. ONCE.
I never went back to that station.
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mowermech
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coolbreeze01 wrote:Buy a top tier brand such as Chevron.
Why? All the gas comes out of the same refinery, through the same terminal, and into the trucks. I have seen Flying J, Chevron, Town Pump, and Maverick trucks lined up at the same terminal, filling up.
The simple fact is, whatever is on the bottom of the underground tank WILL be stirred up by the tank truck dumping into the storage tank, and it won't settle back to the bottom of the tank for several minutes. Yes, there are supposed to be filters on the delivery lines, but they may or may not have been serviced, so the junk may bypass the filter elements.
I like to wait at least half an hour after delivery before I will buy fuel. If necessary, I will go somewhere else to avoid a freshly dumped load.
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Tim_W
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mowermech wrote:coolbreeze01 wrote:Buy a top tier brand such as Chevron.
Why? All the gas comes out of the same refinery, through the same terminal, and into the trucks. I have seen Flying J, Chevron, Town Pump, and Maverick trucks lined up at the same terminal, filling up.
The simple fact is, whatever is on the bottom of the underground tank WILL be stirred up by the tank truck dumping into the storage tank, and it won't settle back to the bottom of the tank for several minutes. Yes, there are supposed to be filters on the delivery lines, but they may or may not have been serviced, so the junk may bypass the filter elements.
I like to wait at least half an hour after delivery before I will buy fuel. If necessary, I will go somewhere else to avoid a freshly dumped load.
A new class of fuel called TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline is appearing at retail stations of some fuel marketers. This gasoline meets detergency standards developed by six automotive companies. All vehicles will benefit from using TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline over gasoline containing the "Lowest Additive Concentration" set by the EPA. Those vehicles that have experienced deposit related concerns may especially benefit from the use of TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline is a new class of gasoline with enhanced detergency. It meets new, voluntary deposit control standards developed by six automotive companies that exceed the detergent requirements imposed by the EPA.
The TOP TIER program began on May 3, 2004 and many fuel marketers have joined the program and have introduced TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline. This is a voluntary program and not all fuel marketers will offer this product. Once fuel marketers make public announcements, they will appear on a list of brands that meet the TOP TIER standards.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards were developed by six automotive companies: Audi, BMW, General Motors, Honda, Toyota and Volkswagen.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline was developed to increase the level of detergent additive in gasoline. The EPA requires that all gasoline sold in the U.S. contain a detergent additive. However, the requirement is minimal and in many cases, is not sufficient to keep engines clean. In order to meet TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards, a higher level of detergent is needed than what is required by the EPA. Also, TOP TIER was developed to give fuel marketers the opportunity to differentiate their product.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline will help keep engines cleaner than gasoline containing the "Lowest Additive Concentration" set by the EPA. Clean engines help provide optimal fuel economy and performance and reduced emissions. Also, use of TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline will help reduce deposit related concerns.
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Rule #1: Never buy fuel, whether it be gas or diesel, when the storage tanks are being filled or right after for that matter. All of the sediment has been stirred up so it can clog your fuel lines and filters. Quite a few of the station filters are not maintained regularly. The water, if there is any, will not be floating on top as it usually is but mixed in. If I see a tanker at a station I keep on driving. First thing my daddy taught me. Well, not the first thing but close enough.
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Kajtek1
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What refinery brand has to do with condensation at certain gas station tank? 
Last time I had some water in gasoline was 17 years ago.
For about a decade California has mandatory double walls underground gas tanks.
Now my son makes big overtime overlooking testing grounds around old stations for contamination.
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Daboo
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it happened to my father in law...he would buy gas at a local non brand name station....the ford quite running...took the tank off and it had a lot of water in it...cleaned and replaced and the car ran like a top...I think some of the gas stations top off their underground tanks with the water hose and you can't convince me other wise...it happens too much
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coolbreeze01
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Coyote2cool wrote:mowermech wrote:coolbreeze01 wrote:Buy a top tier brand such as Chevron.
Why? All the gas comes out of the same refinery, through the same terminal, and into the trucks. I have seen Flying J, Chevron, Town Pump, and Maverick trucks lined up at the same terminal, filling up.
The simple fact is, whatever is on the bottom of the underground tank WILL be stirred up by the tank truck dumping into the storage tank, and it won't settle back to the bottom of the tank for several minutes. Yes, there are supposed to be filters on the delivery lines, but they may or may not have been serviced, so the junk may bypass the filter elements.
I like to wait at least half an hour after delivery before I will buy fuel. If necessary, I will go somewhere else to avoid a freshly dumped load.
A new class of fuel called TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline is appearing at retail stations of some fuel marketers. This gasoline meets detergency standards developed by six automotive companies. All vehicles will benefit from using TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline over gasoline containing the "Lowest Additive Concentration" set by the EPA. Those vehicles that have experienced deposit related concerns may especially benefit from the use of TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline is a new class of gasoline with enhanced detergency. It meets new, voluntary deposit control standards developed by six automotive companies that exceed the detergent requirements imposed by the EPA.
The TOP TIER program began on May 3, 2004 and many fuel marketers have joined the program and have introduced TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline. This is a voluntary program and not all fuel marketers will offer this product. Once fuel marketers make public announcements, they will appear on a list of brands that meet the TOP TIER standards.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards were developed by six automotive companies: Audi, BMW, General Motors, Honda, Toyota and Volkswagen.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline was developed to increase the level of detergent additive in gasoline. The EPA requires that all gasoline sold in the U.S. contain a detergent additive. However, the requirement is minimal and in many cases, is not sufficient to keep engines clean. In order to meet TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline standards, a higher level of detergent is needed than what is required by the EPA. Also, TOP TIER was developed to give fuel marketers the opportunity to differentiate their product.
TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline will help keep engines cleaner than gasoline containing the "Lowest Additive Concentration" set by the EPA. Clean engines help provide optimal fuel economy and performance and reduced emissions. Also, use of TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline will help reduce deposit related concerns.
Good job explaining Top Tier Fuel. I mistakenly assumed most consumers would know what it is by now.
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