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ngc1514
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There has been a lot of discussion about a "jobless recovery" to the current recession. Doesn't bode well for those who have lost jobs and new people coming into the work force - especially those without some serious job skills.
My brother-in-law is a highly qualified architect and has been unable to find a job in his line of work for the last year. He's working two entry level type jobs to keep food on the table.
It ain't pretty out there and I don't think it's going to change even after the economy comes back.
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I, for one, believe it's the new economic normality.
I just don't see how in the world anyone can reverse the factors that caused it.
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" the new economic normality"
You're probably right, unfortunately for all of us.
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Kajtek1
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Having friends in different professions I noted tens of jobs vanishing from the World permanently.
Who remembers screen printing, or how many travel agencies still exist in your neighborhood?
The long time travel agent I know is manufacturing steel gates right now.
Even automotive mechanic seems to be vanishing profession. Today's cars are mechanically bulletproof, while they need computer programmer to stay on the road. With high cost of repairs and cars getting cheaper and cheaper any car blowing engine after warranty is going to be junked and new car bought. Most likely on the Internet, since car salesman walking the lot is becoming a dinosaur.
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My 43 year old son in law (senior information technology specialists) with 4 kids has been without a job for 11 months now. His company thought his wages to high so they laid him off. The person filling his job makes only 65 percent of what he made. My SIL is crushed.
My 56 year old neighbor is a lineman and lost his job (layoff) from PSO of Oklahoma and had been with them for 26 years. He and his wife are raising a 7 year old grandson. At his age another lineman job doesn't look good.
My 48 year old nephew (investment counsler) with 6 kids has been out of work for 10 months. He's flippin' burgers part time along with trying to get into lawn mowing commercially.
My 46 year old son was the division quality control mgr for a worldwide electrical switching gear (power plants,sub stations, hydro electric power generating/nuke generating/etc) supplier will koose his job as the Swedish owners is moving his division to MX from Florida. He's job searching as the plant leaves the first of the year.
Our manufacturing base left in the '80s. In my area of my state we had several dozen plants from small low skills to high skills aircraft/space companies such as Boeing to McDonnell/Douglas to North American/Rockwell. They were a good place for men and women to find some type of employment.
The construction job market has been gobbled up by illegals however Oklahome just passed tougher regs/penalties against companies and that hire illegals. I have noticed not as many state highway contractors using illegals on our road projects. Now if we could get illegals out of other job areas Americans would have more job available for the unemployed.
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You don't see too many jobs out there for stage coach drivers or blacksmiths either. Elevator operator is also a profession that seemed to just vanish. Technology changes things and it also creates new jobs.
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As someone who has had 3 distinct careers over 36 years, I have mixed emotions about this. This is a subject I continually read on, but get different answers. I went from a social services background to IT. I'm very aware that a great many people never saw a need to become 'computer literate', and that now comes back to haunt them. Lack of computer skills, even what I would consider pretty basic, is prevalent.
We also have a trend in this country of less scholarship. That is, more kids skipping math and science and becoming medical billing coders or massage therapists. We have a high dropout rate from high school AND college. Fewer people going into IT because it's a difficult area (requires a lot of weekends in the computer lab).
Even health care jobs. Nursing requires not only physical ability, but a lot of science and some math. Again, we have fewer and fewer people who are keeping themselves up physically (no ones fault but their own) and more and more without decent study habits or science backgrounds.
I'm more of the mind that there are jobs out there for people with education and skills. Yes, right now, there are continued layoffs, even in tech fields. But when jobs start to come back, it's the skills that will get the unemployed back into a job first.
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retiredtraveler
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Kajtek1 wrote: Even automotive mechanic seems to be vanishing profession.
Not unless you're in the group that believes that government stats are lies. This is an area that is projected, and is currently growing faster than most other areas. What cars are 'mechanically bulletproof'?
Apparently, not mine. Trannies go, brakes, alignment, springs/shocks, a/c. Yes, fewer people replace engines and now, with electronics, mechanics have to be microprocesser savvy. That's simply a changing job description, but not going away.
What has gone away is the kid down the street coming out of high school and starting out at a garage as a 'grease money', and learning the trade from someone else. You need a 2 year degree. You need to know mechanical and electrical systems and be literate. There is also more specializing.
I'm big on this area because I have seen anyone who is serious about getting a career in this area going on and doing very well.
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msmith1199
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retiredtraveler wrote:Kajtek1 wrote: Even automotive mechanic seems to be vanishing profession.
Not unless you're in the group that believes that government stats are lies. This is an area that is projected, and is currently growing faster than most other areas. What cars are 'mechanically bulletproof'?
Apparently, not mine. Trannies go, brakes, alignment, springs/shocks, a/c. Yes, fewer people replace engines and now, with electronics, mechanics have to be microprocesser savvy. That's simply a changing job description, but not going away.
What has gone away is the kid down the street coming out of high school and starting out at a garage as a 'grease money', and learning the trade from someone else. You need a 2 year degree. You need to know mechanical and electrical systems and be literate. There is also more specializing.
I'm big on this area because I have seen anyone who is serious about getting a career in this area going on and doing very well.
Of course you are correct and the job of mechanic is not going away. The job of backyard mechanic is going away because most people can't work on their own cars anymore other than simple things like changing the oil. But being a backyard mechanic didn't pay much anyway. Modern cars require lots of computer equipment to be able to work on and that requires skills that a lot of people who used to go into the mechanic field don't have or don't want to get.
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