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Yahooligan

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Posted: 03/02/13 09:56pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Old-ish member back again (had a TT before). This time around we're in the market for a used RV and have a budget of up to about $25k, which seems to put us in the mid-90s up to the early '00s, depending on class, size, etc.

Our dilemma seems to come down to whether we go with an older DP or a newer gas, though the year range doesn't seem to be that big. I'm seeing a number of Ford V10s from the late '90s and early '00s, but I'd rather not have to worry about spark plug problems. I've never really been a fan of the newer GM powertrains and their reliability, mainly the non-Allison transmissions. So, that seems to really limit us. The older V8 units whether from Ford or GM seem to have weaker transmissions anyway, no? Best options would be a V10 with 8-thread heads and the TorqShift or a GM 8.1L with an Allison? That seems to put us out of our budget...

So on the DP front, I've been trying to look for units with the Cummins C8.3 and 6-speed Allison, avoiding the 5.9 or 4-speed units if possible. Nothing against the 5.9, I just feel it wouldn't have the balls to move the RV well while towing 3000-3500lb. Trying to avoid units with Cat engines as it sounds like they tend to be more problematic than Cummins. Also looking for side radiator units.

Obviously maintenance is key no matter what we're looking at, but moreso with the DPs since they're just flat out more expensive to repair if not properly maintained.

As for what we want/need out of it...

Basement storage
Rear queen
Sleeper sofa
Convertible dinette
Leveling jacks
A shower that I can fit in (I'm 6'1" and that seems to mean the shower needs a skylight)
About 36 feet long
Needs to tow and launch PWCs

There are some nice looking older DPs (Older as in late '80s) that have been well taken care of and have "character" but I would be concerned about components starting to randomly fail. Last thing I want to do is have to replace the fridge, then find an A/C unit dies, then it needs a water heater, etc. For that reason I'm hesitant to go with something older than something from the mid-'90s.

Are Cat engines really that much more problematic than a similar Cummins? I realize there are a lot of different models out there, 3208 V8, 3176 I6, etc.

Some that have caught my eyes are a '97 Damon Intruder with a 275HP Cat 7.2 (3126), some mid/late-80s Vogues with the 3208, A Monaco Crown Royale with a Cat of some sort, a '97 Fleetwood Discovery with a 275HP Cummins...

I'm curious to know what you folks that have experience with various models would go with if you had a similar budget and need to have basically 3 separate beds and not struggle while towing while also being the most reliable overall. I have no problem doing my own work, I'd just rather not spend more time wrenching than enjoying. [emoticon]

Looking for any input and suggestions. Thanks!


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setraveler wrote:

NOTE I learned from buying new boat applies to RV, used or new. The operations and owner manual are critical to use. BEFORE you close deal, make part of closing/title etc this. ALL operations/owner manuals will be placed on or beside the item(S) they apply to, work with, etc. Then each item will be shown by seller as to operation, maintaining, manuals etc until you KNOW, or both of you KNOW how to operate/maintain them.

If you do not do this, you end up with a stack of paper that may or may not be there when you need it, may or may not apply to your model or they just do not have the manuals. You will some day find you need the manual, that you never got, so insist on manual next to item and remove when you know how to operate. Kind of takes care of two critical items at one time.
I learned lesson the hard way on a diesel filter on engine that seemed to only shut off when nearly wrecking place while docking, usually in front of hundreds of people whom wondered how come I even allowed to own boat, much less use it. Seems the valve I thought was shut, was not 100% so and sucked air when it felt like it at idle. I found that out when I bought missing manual


YES totally agree with this. I got a huge binder with all the manuals that came with all the gear that was installed. it breaks my heart to see the manual for the generator and the ice maker that are missing now to answer what I did with my class "A" motorhome,,, I just got finished installing my Onan generator to replace the missing Kohler that was taken out at one time before I got this motorhome.

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Newbie Class A owner. Previously had pop-up. Very informative and quite helpful. Our first trip was a dream come true. :-)

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Okay so I've research and decided on what RV would be best for us. We def wanted to buy through Camping World for many reason. One of them was that if we found one we liked, it could be brought to FL for us to inspect and purchase. We found "the one" but the CW dealer who has it, would not release it to us. We would have to drive 11 hrs to his facility. Just having back surgery, this was not an option. We missed out on the first one we found, due to a salesman's' error. We drove 2.5 hrs to look at, (and hopefully purchase) the Winne of our dreams. But 15 mins before we arrived they sold it. The salesman I talked to knew we were driving to Tampa to look at a specific RV and NEVER told us we could put a deposit on it to hold it till we arrived. (loss #1). And now I have a disrespectful salesman, who has lied and been cruel.
So moral of the story, put down a deposit to hold an RV you are driving to look at and beware of camping World salesmen. I am getting very frustrated and disappointed with CW. They are not all they are cracked up to be.



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Fully agree on CW, drove there one time and finally left after feeling like being in some sort of run down used car lot with sales folks of same type. Was a while back, but will never return. Shudder to think what would happen if we bought at one place and attempted to get warranty etc at another, plus their prices way to high.

Note: Rule of thumb with any dealer of any product for us on, if they will not post prices as "to low to post" then we go elsewhere.

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SailorGirl, have you tried LazyDays in Tampa? It's only a few hours away, and they have a HUGE selection of RVs. Also, they can take care of everything there. I did a lot of research first and went into LazyDays with several lists and many strict budget items and came out of there VERY happy. My only complaint with them is that getting work done there takes forever. However, you can stay there in your RV while the work is done & they will feed you 2x a day if you do.

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Most of the RV's built are sub-standard at best. Knowing that you realize that it IS NOT an INVESTMENT, but a loss. Unlike Boats, RV's seem to loose there value fast, so you got to make sure that it is right for you. As for Lazyday's & Camping World; not someone I would do business with. Lots of hype, but little performance in my opinion. Same for LaMesa RV out west. Several locations, and no where will you get an honest deal, or I should say a fair deal for yourself.

Good Luck, remember the laws in most States state: "Buyer Beware". IF IT IS NOT IN WRITING, THEN IT IS A LIE!


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Posted: 06/14/13 06:51pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

retiredlife wrote:

Most of the RV's built are sub-standard at best. Knowing that you realize that it IS NOT an INVESTMENT, but a loss. Unlike Boats, RV's seem to loose there value fast, so you got to make sure that it is right for you. As for Lazyday's & Camping World; not someone I would do business with. Lots of hype, but little performance in my opinion. Same for LaMesa RV out west. Several locations, and no where will you get an honest deal, or I should say a fair deal for yourself.

Good Luck, remember the laws in most States state: "Buyer Beware". IF IT IS NOT IN WRITING, THEN IT IS A LIE!


How very encouraging you are!

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Hello, first time buyer here with my husband. Yesterday we looked at Fleetwood Discovery and loved it. However it is $209,000, a bit above our budget. We don't even know if this is a good RV or not, it was 40 foot which we know we want.

Can anyone be so kind to help out this rookie in what RV model to buy; new or used; best years if used and any other information would be helpful. Floor plan is very important to us, we plan on driving down to Florida for 4-5 months out of the year from Illinois.

Thank you,
Sondra

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Sondra do not discount buying a used motorhome. There is a link to a tread on buying used in the opening post of this thread.

I would suggest you find some candidates that meet your needs, wants and pocketbook then ask for some feedback for you to consider.

Each particular brand will have its naysayers and cheerleaders.

I think you will get a better response if you post your inquires as a thread in rather than a post to this thread...

Johnny

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