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RE: 5th Wheel Tripod Stabalizers?
How stabile the front of trailer is (front to back or side to side) has much to do with how far out the landing jacks are extended. Not all landing jacks are equal. I've been in some campsites that my landing jacks were almost 100 percent extended even with 8" blocks under the feet.
A pin stabilizer can only help side to side movement or at least mine does. I use adjustable chocks between the tires for front to back movement and BAL stabilizers at the rear of the trailer.
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JIMNLIN
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05/20/12 06:35pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: which tire
I had the same issue with the same size 5er (10600 lbs )with the same tires and wheels.
I don't use ST tires so I uprated to 16" trailer wheels and LT215/85-16 E.
That was in '03. Ran them for over 55k miles/seven years with no issues. Just over 15k on the second set and doing fine.
The benifits of the E tire comes at those higher 80 lb pressures. Which ever way you go match the wheel width/pressures to the tires max pressures and enjoy those max benifits.
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JIMNLIN
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05/20/12 06:29pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Lube on Lug Studs
I see some RV folks have never delt with seized lugs that no amout of heat/penetrant of any kind/etc helped in removal.
I've found using a bit of lube on the threads and cone when the lugs get dry which they all will over time and use keeps them from seizing. No amount of brushing helped.
You can either lube them or twist them off and replace them after their seized.
I wouldn't lube new lugs/studs.
I add a touch of lube to the cone part of my lugs when they pop as their broken loose.
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JIMNLIN
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05/20/12 07:15am |
Tech Issues
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RE: GVWR for Voltage 3905
Uneven loading on the axles, tires rated for less then 3500 lbs each. Rv builder knowing people overload their trailers, and overbuilding it slightly so it survives the warranty period.
Sounds right.
In the middle of '08 NHTSA changed the way RV manufacturers applied GVWR and the GAWR. New regs (571.120 S10) says "On RV trailers, the sum of the GAWRs of all axles on the vehicle plus the vehicle manufacturer's recommended tongue weight must not be less than the GVWR."
Prior regs allowed RV makers to use those small GAWR and a high GVWR.
Looks like this unit has the running gear for the long haul.
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JIMNLIN
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05/19/12 06:46am |
Toy Haulers
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RE: Shopping for Truck...
Actually according to GM online weights calculator the short box has 124 lb advantage because its a lighter truck. Both have the same GVWR/RAWR/FAWR numbers.
For the OP........
Here's Fords Fleet service specs sheet web for years '01-'12. clicky link
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JIMNLIN
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05/19/12 06:11am |
Truck Campers
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RE: Jacking 5er
My last flat tire was while we were set up full time for 45 days in a KOA. The flat was under the side with the 14' super slide. No way in hell I was going to hook up and pull the trailer anywhere.
Simply slid my 12 ton shorty hyd bottle jack under the end of the axle and raised it high enough get the flat tire off and back on. It was so simple a caveman can do it.
I prefere not to have the truck hooked up while I'm jacking on the trailer but I've done it both ways.
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JIMNLIN
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05/18/12 06:32pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Pulling boat behind fifth wheel?
I have an Alpenlite 34RL fifth wheel that already has a hitch receiver on it, it looks like it was put on by trailer manufacturer, I was wondering if I can pull a small boat that weighs under 1000 lbs. including trailer.
Thanks
Looks like the police have hyjacked your simply question and the hitch on your trailer.
I have no idea how much your reciever can carry/pull. Some were addded to carry a bicycle rack and other to carry/pull several thousand pounds. You might have a hitch shop/your RV dealer take a look and give you a recommendation if it will handle a 1000 lb boat trailer.
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JIMNLIN
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05/18/12 08:20am |
Tech Issues
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RE: leveling...1 or 2 tires?
I use a couple of 2x's under one tire if it raises the trailer enough or if the trailer needs to go higher than 3"-4" I go with boards under both tires.
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JIMNLIN
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05/18/12 08:03am |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Shortest 5th wheel or 5th wheel toy hauler
Check out these folks ALLEN. There a small outfit and have been around since the '60s.
They show 5th wheels starting at 19'.
Also lots of searching clicky linky the different RV manufacturers for the latest out there.
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JIMNLIN
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05/18/12 07:50am |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Help --- Looking for a bottle jack
I have a old '70s 12 ton shortie hyd bottle jack. It was sold as a truckers special as it came with a 12" x 12" wide base for using on soft surfaces on the side of the road. Its great for sliding under the axles to lift the axle when changing a flat tire.
Lifting one side of the trailer is no problems with this jack.
IMO a 4000 lb jack is simply not he best tool for your 16000 lb trailer when lifting the end of one axle or other jobs that require lifting the side of the trailer.
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JIMNLIN
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05/18/12 07:42am |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Should Tire Max Load = Trailer GVWR???
Disagree with the guessing part. If the unit hasn't been weighed its just a guess as to actual tire/wheel capacity requirements. Weve seen to many trailer owners in the past come from the factory with pitiful undersized axles/wheels/tires. Mounting tires per the GAWR wouldn't be the smart idea.
Then on the flip side;
If the axles are 6k and the axle loads are scaled at 10900-11500 lbs wet and the trailer has a 14.5k - 15.5 GVWR then mounting tires at GVWR may require a unnecessary upgrade to higher rated wheels/tires. We see this just about weekly on the TH and 5th wheel forums on this and other trailering type webs. Some folks with 11000 lbs on the axle/tires have gone on up to 17.5" wheels and tires to match the trailer high 15k GVWR and to get away from 16" ST tire issues.
Know your vehicles actual scaled axle weights is the best safety policy.
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JIMNLIN
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05/18/12 06:54am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Should Tire Max Load = Trailer GVWR???
The advantage of a E tire over the D tire is at those higher pressures. I doub't your 15" steel wheels are 80 psi rated.
HOWEVER some 15" x 6.5" wide trailer wheels that come with ST225/75-15 D are pressure rated to 70-75 psi. Yours may be.
Many trailers come no where near their GVWR. Some are at or over their GVWR so there is no black and white answer to your GVWR question.
As jauguston says it depends on the actual loads on the axle/tires and if you want any or need a certain reserve capacity. I wouldn't guess or estimate axle loads.
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JIMNLIN
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05/17/12 07:55pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Good weekend but had a blow out.
I'm guessing your tripple axle has 6k axles = 18000 lbs of capacity.
I would go with a LT235/85-16 E tire rated at 3042 capacity if you have room as they are 31.7" tall. Or a LT245/75-16 E at the same capacity and is 30.4" tall. Six will give you 18252 lbs of capacity. Be sure and go with a LT tire that is recommended for use on a heavy trailer.
I traded with Robertson tires or Hibdon or Sams Club or Claremore tire store. I've even ordered LT tires through Walmart and let them mount them or use a small tire shop of my choice.
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JIMNLIN
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05/17/12 08:00am |
Toy Haulers
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RE: help me determine the age of my tires
Continential Vanco 2 tires are very popular with trailering public including RVers. They show a 205/65R-15 C load range at 1874 lbs capacity. These tires are a LT design and used on vans and trucks.
If your thinking about a wheel upgrade there are a few more 15" LT tires that require a 6" or 6.5" wide wheel with pressures up to 65 psi. Don't bite into the using higher pressure tires than the wheel is rated for then derating the tire with lower pressures for a tire on a trailer.
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JIMNLIN
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05/17/12 06:44am |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: help me determine the age of my tires
looks like I need to getting some new tires before taking any long trips. I called around a few places this morning. Most have either Carlise or Greenball tires. This trailer has 5 lug 15" rims so LT tires are out.
Maybe we can help you. Give us the tire size and load range. There are a few 15" LT sizes available for trailer service.
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JIMNLIN
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05/16/12 06:28pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: truck tag
In Oklahoma we have no weighted tags to purchase or a registered weight of any type for a private use truck.
However Oklahoma does have a requirement for trucks in commercial service (all sizes) to be registered at a GVW for a gross weight or for a gross combined weight.
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JIMNLIN
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05/16/12 06:52am |
Towing
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RE: whats your career?
Retired journeyman aircraft tool builder ... hard and soft.
Very satisfying job/duties/responsibilities with lots of work buddies that I worked with in the same profession for 39 years in several different aircraft manufacturing plants. Sure do miss them.
'Course aircraft tooling is what it is and with lots of feast and famine time I had lots of spare time doing other things. Tried operating my own sub contract construction outfit part and full time for over 11 years. Too much time on the road away from home moving materials (steel) and work equipment to the next multi state jobsites. Sold it to one of my subs.
Which I could have retired first.
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JIMNLIN
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05/15/12 08:48pm |
Around the Campfire
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RE: Wheel balance?
Sounds like the dealer is honest and has been in the tire business for quite a while and may understand the reasons its not necessary on a trailer. However its your money so if you feel its necessary I would have it done.
Some folks brag on getting thousands of miles of trouble free milage out of the OEM tires that wern't balanced then swear up and down that tires on a trailer should be balanced.
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JIMNLIN
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05/15/12 07:37pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Biggest New 5er behind my '06 Dodge 2500?
I currently own a '06 Montana 32' with two slides and we are looking to buy a 4-slide 5er without having to give up our Dodge Ram 2500 which has no issues pulling my current 5er. I love Montana and I'm considering the option of the High Country but I have not shopped in 6 years. I know manu's are making lighter units. Any advice for a size upgrade from any manufacturer with-out changing tow vehicle? This upgrade could be retirement traveling condo in 6 yearss:)
A 5er with four slides on a 2500 truck will takes some legwork finding one with a light pin weight.
One of my trucks is a 2500 Dodge/Cummins 2wd quad cab NV5600. Were limited by those small 6000 RAWR/tire and wheel capacities so anything over a 2500-2700 lb wet road ready pin weight will overload the OEM tires. You will need to be looking at a 4 slide unit with a 2100-2200 lb dry pin weight.
The 2500 Dodge is the same truck as the 3500 SRW since '03. However the Dodge SRW is a sick pig for carrying capacity with it pathetic 6200 RAWR. Ford and GM SRW are at 7000 and 7050 RAWR respectivly.
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JIMNLIN
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05/15/12 07:16pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Ok here we go
My state as many states, don't have a paid tag requirement or any registered weight requirement for private use trucks (any size). A out of state one ton dually may have a 15k-20k registration however it doesn't get the operator anything. All the leo is interested in the loads on the trucks don't exceed the "lessor" of the vehicle manufacturers axle rating or tire load ratings.
He isn't interested in the trucks GVWR although its on the placard. And he isn't interested in a GCWR as it simply isn't on the truck or a placard nor is it required to be per the FMVSS's.
As the CA weight reg Rick posted pointing to the vehicles tire load ratings per the FMVSS, were simply allowed the sum of the vehicle manufacturers axle/tire rating. Remember the FMVSS says the tire load rating shall meet or exceed the vehicle manufacturers GAWR.
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JIMNLIN
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05/15/12 07:04am |
Tow Vehicles
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